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Started by jimmy olsen, September 19, 2011, 11:09:42 PM

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Grey Fox

Quote from: Berkut on September 20, 2011, 11:34:53 AM
Huh. So there is some kind of rampant corruption problem in Quebec, and the victims of that corruption are angry that people are talking about it, rather than being angry that they are being stolen from?

How very...provincial. It's kind of like domestic violence almost - sure, being abused is bad, but not nearly as bad as other people knowing about it!

Sure we can talk about that here but it isn't entirely has fun as the current subject at hand. Plus it would give the other Canucks more reason to laugh at us & we atleast want them to find it on their own.

Sometimes I wonder where all the money the rich people hold is & wtf are they doing with it.
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Zoupa

Quote from: Berkut on September 20, 2011, 11:54:29 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on September 20, 2011, 11:50:02 AM
Berkut, you often do this. Make up an argument in your head, then proceed to demolish it and be all snide about it.

Jesus, being called snide by Zoupa! That can't be good.

However, the argument isn't really about me, is it? I wonder why you would immediately try to turn this into some kind of personal thing when I ask you why you care more about people talking about corruption than the corruption itself? Hmmmm......

Oh shit, was I being snide again???

:lol: Ok man.

viper37

Quote from: Berkut on September 20, 2011, 11:34:53 AM
Huh. So there is some kind of rampant corruption problem in Quebec, and the victims of that corruption are angry that people are talking about it, rather than being angry that they are being stolen from?

How very...provincial. It's kind of like domestic violence almost - sure, being abused is bad, but not nearly as bad as other people knowing about it!
who's angry here?
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Berkut

Grey Fox and Zoupa. They are so upset they are asking that the press stop talking about Quebec at all.
"If you think this has a happy ending, then you haven't been paying attention."

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viper37

Quote from: Berkut on September 20, 2011, 11:42:21 AM
Ahhh, I guess the posters in this thread expressing annoyance that people are talking about this must have meant something else. Or the people, who shall remain unnamed, whose response to it being mentioned was to ask that the press not talk about Quebec at all.
Malthus is not from Quebec.
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Berkut

Quote from: viper37 on September 20, 2011, 12:01:11 PM
Quote from: Berkut on September 20, 2011, 11:42:21 AM
Ahhh, I guess the posters in this thread expressing annoyance that people are talking about this must have meant something else. Or the people, who shall remain unnamed, whose response to it being mentioned was to ask that the press not talk about Quebec at all.
Malthus is not from Quebec.

Malthus didn't ask that the press stop talking about Quebec though. I couldn't imagine why he would, especially since he doesn't seem to be the one upset in any case. More of a patronizing bemusement, I would say...
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viper37

Quote from: Grey Fox on September 20, 2011, 11:56:41 AM
Sometimes I wonder where all the money the rich people hold is & wtf are they doing with it.
there's like 5 or 6 billionaires in the entire Quebec.  It's not like there's a ton of them evading taxes and all.  Even if you were to nationalize all their assets, it wouldn't cover the deficits for more than 1 or 2 years at the rate we're spending, and then, we'd be left with nothing.
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If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

viper37

#37
Quote from: Berkut on September 20, 2011, 12:02:13 PM
Malthus didn't ask that the press stop talking about Quebec though. I couldn't imagine why he would, especially since he doesn't seem to be the one upset in any case. More of a patronizing bemusement, I would say...
You're doing the lawyer stuff, à la Malthus.  Take one incomplete piece of data and extrapolate it for a totally different situation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Quebec_sentiment
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If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Grey Fox

Quote from: Berkut on September 20, 2011, 12:01:07 PM
Grey Fox and Zoupa. They are so upset they are asking that the press stop talking about Quebec at all.

I said the Toronto Media.
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Grey Fox

Quote from: viper37 on September 20, 2011, 12:03:36 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 20, 2011, 11:56:41 AM
Sometimes I wonder where all the money the rich people hold is & wtf are they doing with it.
there's like 5 or 6 billionaires in the entire Quebec.  It's not like there's a ton of them evading taxes and all.  Even if you were to nationalize all their assets, it wouldn't cover the deficits for more than 1 or 2 years at the rate we're spending, and then, we'd be left with nothing.

I meant it more generally then the 5 Billionaires of Quebec. Nor in a Tax evading mind set. I just wonder, wtf are they doing with their money.

Are we Russia, is our only way of generating wealth is to cheat the system at every corner?
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Berkut

Quote from: viper37 on September 20, 2011, 12:04:31 PM
Quote from: Berkut on September 20, 2011, 12:02:13 PM
Malthus didn't ask that the press stop talking about Quebec though. I couldn't imagine why he would, especially since he doesn't seem to be the one upset in any case. More of a patronizing bemusement, I would say...
You're doing the lawyer stuff, à la Malthus.  Take one incomplete piece of data and extrapolate it for a totally different situation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Quebec_sentiment

It is interesting that you demanded some kind of study to "prove" that corruption in Quebec was so much more an issue than elsewhere, and then turn around and cite this:

QuoteThere is a perception among the French language media in Quebec that an unfavourable depiction of Quebec by the media became especially prevalent in the years following the 1995 Quebec referendum on Quebec independence,[3][4] although there is no study or statistical evidence provided to back this assertion.

You seem to have rather flexible requirements for when you require statistical evidence to believe something...
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Berkut

Quote from: Grey Fox on September 20, 2011, 12:09:09 PM
Quote from: Berkut on September 20, 2011, 12:01:07 PM
Grey Fox and Zoupa. They are so upset they are asking that the press stop talking about Quebec at all.

I said the Toronto Media.

Oh...is the Toronto media somehow worse than other media when it comes to statistically non-existent un-evidenced "bias"?
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Grey Fox

Quote from: Berkut on September 20, 2011, 12:13:40 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 20, 2011, 12:09:09 PM
Quote from: Berkut on September 20, 2011, 12:01:07 PM
Grey Fox and Zoupa. They are so upset they are asking that the press stop talking about Quebec at all.

I said the Toronto Media.

Oh...is the Toronto media somehow worse than other media when it comes to statistically non-existent un-evidenced "bias"?

Yes. This is Canada mate, the Toronto media is annoying entitled filth. Just ask CC.
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Grey Fox

To talk about the OP's subject. How long until Marois is forced out & Duceppe becomes First Comrade of the Socialist Republic of Quebec?
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Grey Fox

I'm going to turn this thread into an all out Quebec Political thread for the day.


What do you guys think of Francois Legault & his movement? He'll lose some traction once his party is up & running but I don't see how the Libs, Marois lead PQ & dieing ADQ can survive the next election cycle.
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