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Turkey makes more friends. This time: the EU

Started by Martinus, September 18, 2011, 06:36:27 AM

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Duque de Bragança

Quote from: Zanza on September 18, 2011, 07:32:55 AM
It was South Cyprus that voted against the UN brokered peace deal with North Cyprus.

The last one. How many of those were rejected by the Turks, again?

Ideologue

Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on September 19, 2011, 06:01:48 AM
:lmfao:

I'd never really thought about those Greek coins before............but have to admit that it is very funny given the way things have turned out. Well spotted Sheilbh  :thumbsup:

It'd be inappropriate even if Greece was in the position of Germany.  It's like if we printed a two dollar bill with Tom Jefferson sodomizing Sally Hemings.
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The Larch

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on September 19, 2011, 06:38:28 AM
Quote from: Zanza on September 18, 2011, 07:32:55 AM
It was South Cyprus that voted against the UN brokered peace deal with North Cyprus.

The last one. How many of those were rejected by the Turks, again?

There has only been one referendum, AFAIK, the 2004 one.

HisMajestyBOB

And when the official policy of the Greek Cypriots is still ethnic cleansing of all the Turks, you can see why Northern Cyprus would be reluctant to accept their deals.
Three lovely Prada points for HoI2 help

Duque de Bragança

Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on September 19, 2011, 07:58:42 AM
And when the official policy of the Greek Cypriots is still ethnic cleansing of all the Turks, you can see why Northern Cyprus would be reluctant to accept their deals.

Sending settlers from the Anatolian mainland is illegal under international law. If Having then returned to Anatolia is what you call ethnic cleansing, then you should check up your definition
Btw; that's why Erdogan criticising Israeli colonisation is a classic case of double standards.

Ideologue

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Valmy

Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

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Neil

Quote from: Martinus on September 19, 2011, 01:19:56 AM
Lithuania is nasty too, although they hate Poles more than Russians it seems (for example they banned people spelling their last names in a non-Lithuanian way, if you can imagine that).
What's wrong with that?  Doesn't Sweden also decide what people can and cannot be named?
QuoteAnd they have implemented or tried to implement some of the most homophobic policies in the EU (e.g. a law which criminalizes, with possible prison sentences, "presenting homosexuality in a good light", which causes protests all across Europe).
Well, if Eastern European faggots are anything like you, I can see why they would have such a problem with them.
QuoteNot to mention they still venerate nazis and remember with sentiment such stories as their national soccer team winning a match with the German team in 1941 and being taken, as a reward, to the local ghetto to have some fun shooting at the Jews.
It's hard to blame them for liking the Nazis, what with the Nazis being liberators to the Balts, and the Allies representing enslavement and genocide.  That Nazis were the lesser of two evils if you were a Balt.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Slargos

The cypriot situation is a great example of how difficult the topic of ethnic cleansing is.

On the one hand, punishing the descendants of the colonists is "inhumane" (for the lack of a better term), but rewarding the atrocities perpetrated by the occupants by simply ignoring long enough also seems deeply unfair.

HisMajestyBOB

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on September 19, 2011, 08:16:54 AM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on September 19, 2011, 07:58:42 AM
And when the official policy of the Greek Cypriots is still ethnic cleansing of all the Turks, you can see why Northern Cyprus would be reluctant to accept their deals.

Sending settlers from the Anatolian mainland is illegal under international law. If Having then returned to Anatolia is what you call ethnic cleansing, then you should check up your definition
Btw; that's why Erdogan criticising Israeli colonisation is a classic case of double standards.

Ethnic cleansing was what started the mess in the first place.
And of course Greeks are allowed to settle in southern Cyprus, while Turks are not.
The ultimate goal is still a Turk-free Cyprus.
Three lovely Prada points for HoI2 help

Duque de Bragança

Quote from: Ideologue on September 19, 2011, 08:23:53 AM
Who would want to go to Northern Cyprus?

Poor Anatolian goatherders, when sponsored by the Turkish state.

Duque de Bragança

Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on September 19, 2011, 09:14:12 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on September 19, 2011, 08:16:54 AM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on September 19, 2011, 07:58:42 AM
And when the official policy of the Greek Cypriots is still ethnic cleansing of all the Turks, you can see why Northern Cyprus would be reluctant to accept their deals.

Sending settlers from the Anatolian mainland is illegal under international law. If Having then returned to Anatolia is what you call ethnic cleansing, then you should check up your definition
Btw; that's why Erdogan criticising Israeli colonisation is a classic case of double standards.

Ethnic cleansing was what started the mess in the first place.
And of course Greeks are allowed to settle in southern Cyprus, while Turks are not.
The ultimate goal is still a Turk-free Cyprus.

Greeks did not need and still need not to settle Cyprus, unlike Turks who had to populate the areas they ethnically cleansed after the Greek Junta coup and the counter Turkish coup a.k.a Invasion.

Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on September 19, 2011, 09:14:12 AM
The ultimate goal is still a Turk-free Cyprus.

Might as well go for a turk-free Turkey?

Warspite

How many Turks are left in the Greek bit of Cyprus?
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The Larch

Quote from: Warspite on September 19, 2011, 11:43:22 AM
How many Turks are left in the Greek bit of Cyprus?

Couldn't find anything specific, but maybe this is a good proxy:

QuoteAccording to the 2001 census carried out in the Government controlled area, 94.8% of the population are Christian Orthodox, 0.9% Armenians and Maronites, 1.5% Roman Catholics, 1.0% Church of England, and 0.6% Muslims. The remaining 1.3% adhere to other religious denominations or did not state their religion.