Children's Games (Garbon Warning: Carl-Related)

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derspiess

#75
April 24, 2009, 01:40:24 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on April 24, 2009, 01:34:11 PM
Yours doesn't play football or baseball at a year old either. :D

They play softball and tee-ball, respectively.

He will play.  Believe me, he will play.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

fhdz

#76
April 24, 2009, 01:45:09 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 24, 2009, 01:40:24 PM
He will play.  Believe me, he will play.

:huh: I'm not questioning your devotion to sports; I'm questioning your notion that sports toys are not gender-neutral.
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derspiess

#77
April 24, 2009, 01:59:40 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on April 24, 2009, 01:45:09 PM
:huh: I'm not questioning your devotion to sports; I'm questioning your notion that sports toys are not gender-neutral.

Question it if you want, but to me it's pretty simple-- boys tend like football & baseball more than girls do.  Related to this, haven't you noticed that there is a ton of sports-themed clothing for baby/toddler boys & practically none for girls in the same age groups?

FWIW, it's great that your girls are involved in sports.  I would encourage it as well if I had girls.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

fhdz

#78
April 24, 2009, 02:14:38 PM Last Edit: April 24, 2009, 02:45:17 PM by fahdiz
Quote from: derspiess on April 24, 2009, 01:59:40 PM
Question it if you want, but to me it's pretty simple-- boys tend like football & baseball more than girls do.

I wouldn't dispute that.

QuoteRelated to this, haven't you noticed that there is a ton of sports-themed clothing for baby/toddler boys & practically none for girls in the same age groups?

If babies and toddlers did their own clothes-shopping, there might be something to your argument. :D

QuoteFWIW, it's great that your girls are involved in sports.  I would encourage it as well if I had girls.

Sports teach valuable skills and lessons regardless of the sex of the participant.  The girls' grandmother (the ex's mom, not my mom) is a big proponent of that whole "girls shouldn't like sports and boys shouldn't like making craft-type stuff" bullshit, and I've fought that influence over my kids every step of the way.  I'd like my kids to be tough, to think critically and strategically, to value competition, to value practice, and to experience performing a challenging task as part of a team whether they're boys or girls.  Likewise, if I had had boys, I'd want them to be able to sew buttons on their clothes, know how to cook, and figure out how to recycle stuff they'd otherwise discard in clever ways.
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garbon

#79
April 24, 2009, 02:44:52 PM
Fact, playing with dolls makes one weak.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

fhdz

#80
April 24, 2009, 02:46:02 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 24, 2009, 02:44:52 PM
Fact, playing with dolls makes one weak.

I hope you're not suggesting I'm saying that.
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garbon

#81
April 24, 2009, 02:46:59 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on April 24, 2009, 02:46:02 PM
I hope you're not suggesting I'm saying that.

No, derspeiss said it. I just wanted you to be aware that your girls nor I can ever be tough. :(
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

fhdz

#82
April 24, 2009, 02:48:50 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 24, 2009, 02:46:59 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on April 24, 2009, 02:46:02 PM
I hope you're not suggesting I'm saying that.

No, derspeiss said it. I just wanted you to be aware that your girls nor I can ever be tough. :(

Aww, man! That sucks! :(
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Barrister

#83
April 24, 2009, 02:51:36 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 24, 2009, 02:46:59 PM
I just wanted you to be aware that your girls nor I can ever be tough. :(

Well half of that statement is correct at least...
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derspiess

#84
April 24, 2009, 03:15:50 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 24, 2009, 02:46:59 PM
No, derspeiss said it. I just wanted you to be aware that your girls nor I can ever be tough. :(

I'm sure his girls will be fine.  Not that wimmen have to be tough the same way guys do, mind you.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

fhdz

#85
April 24, 2009, 03:32:55 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 24, 2009, 03:15:50 PM
I'm sure his girls will be fine.  Not that wimmen have to be tough the same way guys do, mind you.

How do guys have to be tough in ways women don't have to be tough?
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Malthus

#86
April 24, 2009, 03:43:46 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on April 24, 2009, 03:32:55 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 24, 2009, 03:15:50 PM
I'm sure his girls will be fine.  Not that wimmen have to be tough the same way guys do, mind you.

How do guys have to be tough in ways women don't have to be tough?

It takes a tough man to make a tender chicken.
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

fhdz

#87
April 24, 2009, 03:45:48 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 24, 2009, 03:43:46 PM
It takes a tough man to make a tender chicken.

:lol:
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derspiess

#88
April 24, 2009, 03:47:24 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on April 24, 2009, 03:32:55 PM
How do guys have to be tough in ways women don't have to be tough?

Everything from business dealings to dealing with a traffic ticket.

I know we're not going to see eye to eye on this  ;)
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

garbon

#89
April 24, 2009, 03:53:08 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 24, 2009, 03:47:24 PM
Everything from business dealings to dealing with a traffic ticket.
An ugly girl might need to be tough (if one is to follow your scenario parameters).
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.
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