The Joy of Motherhood

[Savonarola]

Do you have a sack?

There's a handy map of rivers in this thread:

http://languish.org/forums/index.php?topic=580.0

[vinraith]

I'm never having babies, thank you very much. 

You'll change your mind once you hit 30.

She may not. Let's not forget Idiocracy.

[Malthus]

I'm never having babies, thank you very much. 

You'll change your mind once you hit 30.

Yeah, by then she might even meet Mr. Right.

I predicted that comment. 

Alternative jibe: find one that knows where sperm is supposed to go. 

[jimmy olsen]

I'm never having babies, thank you very much. 

You'll change your mind once you hit 30.

She may not. Let's not forget Idiocracy.

I haven't seen the movie but imagined that must of the folks in there had tons of kids.

[vinraith]

I'm never having babies, thank you very much. 

You'll change your mind once you hit 30.

She may not. Let's not forget Idiocracy.

I haven't seen the movie but imagined that must of the folks in there had tons of kids.

The underlying thesis is that smart people don't reproduce, whereas dumbasses reproduce like rabbits.

[Malthus]

The underlying thesis is that smart people don't reproduce, whereas dumbasses reproduce like rabbits.

The Marching Morons thesis.

[vinraith]

The underlying thesis is that smart people don't reproduce, whereas dumbasses reproduce like rabbits.

The Marching Morons thesis.

Exactly, except in Idiocracy there's no one holding things together.

[Malthus]

The underlying thesis is that smart people don't reproduce, whereas dumbasses reproduce like rabbits.

The Marching Morons thesis.

Exactly, except in Idiocracy there's no one holding things together.

That doesn't work so well - without an overclass of smart people holding shit together, you would start to get evolutionary pressure again (i.e. things would get so bad that the dumb will start to die off).

[garbon]

The underlying thesis is that smart people don't reproduce, whereas dumbasses reproduce like rabbits.

Who is the smart person in this scenario?

[Valmy]

Who is the smart person in this scenario?

I take it you disagree with this thesis.

[DGuller]

You can definitely make an argument that smart people who don't reproduce are not so smart on an evolutionary level.  (Not that an individual person should really be concerned with it.)  Creating your spawn is kind of the first requirement of being an evolutionary success.

[garbon]

I take it you disagree with this thesis.

No, that wasn't the aim of my barb.

[Valmy]

No, that wasn't the aim of my barb.

Oh then I didn't understand your barb.  You agree with the thesis under certain definitions of intelligence?

[Martinus]

The Marching Morons thesis doesn't seem to work in a long run, based on a historical experience, though, does it? Sure it does seem like this is the case in a short run, but the progress keeps happening and, at least in the West, living conditions (in every meaning of the word) have been (save for an anomaly like a war or nazism) consistently improving for centuries.

I think the Marching Morons thesis seems to place too much importance on things like intelligence, values and opinions being hereditary in a biological/genetical sense, within a family unit. They are hereditary, but more in a cultural sense - and culture is being produced mainly by smart and creative people.

[garbon]

Oh then I didn't understand your barb.  You agree with the thesis under certain definitions of intelligence?

Tim said : You'll change your mind when you hit 30 (i.e. Korea will want to have / have kids)
Vinnie said: Not necessarily, recall the movie Idiocracy. (i.e. smart people don't want to have kids, therefore as Korea is smart, her opinion may not change)
Me: Who is the smart person in this scenario (in other words: Does Korea will qualify as smart?)