Canada to firmly re-assess its status as a British colony

[crazy canuck]

Because the goal isn't really about making sure that the current level of support for French speakers is adequate, it is about making it clear that there is no adequate level of support possible.

That is certainly the view I get from Viper and Grallon.

Not sure where Oex stands on the issue though.

[HVC]

Are there French immersion classes (like summer camps) for kids in the west?
My younger cousins attended some summer camps like that, to learn english.

Yes, My son attended one this summer.  I am not sure why you would be surprised to learn that. 

Becasue us anglos hate french, tabernac!


:p to be fair it doesn't look like it would suprise him, more that he was curious.

[HVC]

Because the goal isn't really about making sure that the current level of support for French speakers is adequate, it is about making it clear that there is no adequate level of support possible.

That is certainly the view I get from Viper and Grallon.

Not sure where Oex stands on the issue though.

i thought Viper was more level headed on the french in canada thing (though apparently he really hates his queen

[Barrister]

but if a country is going to say it has two languages, they should manage that.

We do "manage it".  It is a question of degree.  So I will ask you the same question the Oex has not yet answered.  Should the Federal government employ a french speaking employee in a community where there is zero chance someone will seek their services in French or should some reasonable judgments be made about the allocation of resources.

What this guy is doing is pushing at the edges of what is reasonable.

umm... The Feds do employ french speaking people in every community where the Federal government has an office for just that eventuality.  Not every employee speaks French, but enough do that you can be offered service in either official language.

[Valmy]

But could you order Winnipeg Jets tickets in French?

[garbon]

Oh, so now you know why I post, even if I state explicitly that I am asking a question?

No, although what I've quoted is another example of a loaded question.  I don't think that you were looking for the real answer - given that a) the law had already been discussed earlier in the thread (/would be easy to lookup) and how you were so quick to state that you'd denounce it, if it was setup the way you thought it might be.

Hell, I was asking what the law was - how would the law turn someone into a whiny git? I said the law was stupid, if it was as stated. I did not say a word about the Canadian French in the post you accused me of being "outraged" about.

Again, that was not the only post you have made in this thread. You've made your contempt apparent.

That is called a joke. Unwad your tender sensibilities.

So are you stating that your joke was completely irrelevant to the points you were making about these antics by French Canadians?

No, what makes you a d-bag is acting like a d-bag and then backpedaling when you get called out on it. But grumbler is right, this is your "thing", and I guess you need something to separate you from everyone else. You are a special and unique flower.

Where am I backpedaling?

[garbon]

We do "manage it".  It is a question of degree.  So I will ask you the same question the Oex has not yet answered.  Should the Federal government employ a french speaking employee in a community where there is zero chance someone will seek their services in French or should some reasonable judgments be made about the allocation of resources.

I've no idea. I suppose it depends on how important the narrative of bilingualism is to the country.

What this guy is doing is pushing at the edges of what is reasonable.

I don't agree with that individual at all - but I am trying to think through his position, as I don't think trivializing it will not make it disappear.

[Barrister]

But could you order Winnipeg Jets tickets in French?

You can't order Winnipeg Jets ticket in any language.  Stupid three year sellout.

[HVC]

But could you order Winnipeg Jets tickets in French?

You can't order Winnipeg Jets ticket in any language.  Stupid three year sellout.

Scalpers are your only hope. will you conscious let you break the law to see a game


Actually, is it illegal to buy, or just sell?

[Valmy]

But could you order Winnipeg Jets tickets in French?

You can't order Winnipeg Jets ticket in any language.  Stupid three year sellout.

[Barrister]

But could you order Winnipeg Jets tickets in French?

You can't order Winnipeg Jets ticket in any language.  Stupid three year sellout.

Scalpers are your only hope. will you conscious let you break the law to see a game


Actually, is it illegal to buy, or just sell?

I'm only charged with prosecuting offences in Alberta.  Winnipeg is well outside my jurisdiction.

[HVC]

But could you order Winnipeg Jets tickets in French?

You can't order Winnipeg Jets ticket in any language.  Stupid three year sellout.

Scalpers are your only hope. will you conscious let you break the law to see a game


Actually, is it illegal to buy, or just sell?

I'm only charged with prosecuting offences in Alberta.  Winnipeg is well outside my jurisdiction.

might as well smoke pot there too, hypocrit

[crazy canuck]

but if a country is going to say it has two languages, they should manage that.

We do "manage it".  It is a question of degree.  So I will ask you the same question the Oex has not yet answered.  Should the Federal government employ a french speaking employee in a community where there is zero chance someone will seek their services in French or should some reasonable judgments be made about the allocation of resources.

What this guy is doing is pushing at the edges of what is reasonable.

umm... The Feds do employ french speaking people in every community where the Federal government has an office for just that eventuality.  Not every employee speaks French, but enough do that you can be offered service in either official language.

Have you ever heard these so called bilingual employees actually speak French? I think you have consumed too much of the cool aid and are simply reciting the mantra.  FYI when I worked in customs we too had a designated french speaker.  She wasnt very good at it and often times when she was needed she could not be found or not working that day - and that was at an International airport where for sure one could expect French speakers from all over the world.

I am willing to bet my house that if I took one of my sons to the Post Office in Quesnel and they started speaking french on anything but a basic level no one would really understand them.

Which is really the point Oex was making.

[Barrister]

Have you ever heard these so called bilingual employees actually speak French? I think you have consumed too much of the cool aid and are simply reciting the mantra.  FYI when I worked in customs we too had a designated french speaker.  She wasnt very good at it and often times when she was needed she could not be found or not working that day - and that was at an International airport where for sure one could expect French speakers from all over the world.

I am willing to bet my house that if I took one of my sons to the Post Office in Quesnel and they started speaking french on anything but a basic level no one would really understand them.

Which is really the point Oex was making.

You mean did I ever hear the two prosecutors in our office from Quebec speak French?  I certainly did.  Our receptionist was always bilingual as well.

[crazy canuck]

Have you ever heard these so called bilingual employees actually speak French? I think you have consumed too much of the cool aid and are simply reciting the mantra.  FYI when I worked in customs we too had a designated french speaker.  She wasnt very good at it and often times when she was needed she could not be found or not working that day - and that was at an International airport where for sure one could expect French speakers from all over the world.

I am willing to bet my house that if I took one of my sons to the Post Office in Quesnel and they started speaking french on anything but a basic level no one would really understand them.

Which is really the point Oex was making.

You mean did I ever hear the two prosecutors in our office from Quebec speak French?  I certainly did.  Our receptionist was always bilingual as well.

I am sure you will agree the two prosectors from Quebec are significantly different from hiring someone form Quesnel who took a few French courses and is now the "bilingual" employee who will be giving service in French in that small town.

You have already told us that your office carries out trials in French.  Obviously that is a special case.  Is it your position that in all of the other services that will rarely if ever require french to be spoken their are French speakers who speak french as well as the people in your office?