Canada to firmly re-assess its status as a British colony

[Viking]

I'd thought it had something to do with how fire is apparently somewhat related to arson, so weapons which deliberate cause fires = "arsonal."

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=arsenal

from dar as-sina'ah or house of manufacture

arson has a latin root

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=arson

[Razgovory]

I'd thought it had something to do with how fire is apparently somewhat related to arson, so weapons which deliberate cause fires = "arsonal."

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=arsenal

from dar as-sina'ah or house of manufacture

arson has a latin root

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=arson

Huh, I always figured it was from "ars" an Indo-European root for fitting to together.  We get the words Art, artisan, and arms from that.  Possibly the gods Ares and Mars and the national names Iran and Aryan.

I R: Surprised.

[viper37]

Canada is no longer a colony, but she is, however, still a Monarchy.

with a foreign Monarch, from wich we should seek to distance ourself.  You can't be truly independant if your head of state is foreign.  I now understand better why English Canadians see Quebec's independance with such a bad idea.  They themselves can't get over the fact that Canada is a seperate nation from England and need to re-assess their attachment to the crown at every opportunity.  For fuck sake, what's next?  The Royal Post Corporation?  The Royal Canadian National Bank?

If the Canadian army corps can't existe without reminding everyone that they are really the Queen's army, might as well not have a distinct army and merge it back with the British Empire.  They have that military tradition wich seem so important (curious that no soldier ever talked about it when you asked them what kind of problems they face or what they need to be done differently).

I'm pretty sure all those veterans without pension or without decent care will feel better now that they are part of the Royal army
I mean, how can it not solve all the problems the Canadian Armed Forces faces?  They will have tradition now   They will be anchored to the past and everyone will be constantly reminded we are still a British Colony, a part of their mighty Empire, governed by a foreign ruler.

I believe a country should look to the future, not constantly look at the past.  I tought the Conservatives clearly understood that, but it seems they really don't grasp something that simple.

[Malthus]

Canada is no longer a colony, but she is, however, still a Monarchy.

with a foreign Monarch, from wich we should seek to distance ourself.  You can't be truly independant if your head of state is foreign.  I now understand better why English Canadians see Quebec's independance with such a bad idea.  They themselves can't get over the fact that Canada is a seperate nation from England and need to re-assess their attachment to the crown at every opportunity.  For fuck sake, what's next?  The Royal Post Corporation?  The Royal Canadian National Bank?

If the Canadian army corps can't existe without reminding everyone that they are really the Queen's army, might as well not have a distinct army and merge it back with the British Empire.  They have that military tradition wich seem so important (curious that no soldier ever talked about it when you asked them what kind of problems they face or what they need to be done differently).

I'm pretty sure all those veterans without pension or without decent care will feel better now that they are part of the Royal army
I mean, how can it not solve all the problems the Canadian Armed Forces faces?  They will have tradition now   They will be anchored to the past and everyone will be constantly reminded we are still a British Colony, a part of their mighty Empire, governed by a foreign ruler.

I believe a country should look to the future, not constantly look at the past.  I tought the Conservatives clearly understood that, but it seems they really don't grasp something that simple.

The vast majority of English Canadians could not give a toss either way. Though this one finds the over-the-top hysteria on the issue amusing. 

[Viking]

Canada is no longer a colony, but she is, however, still a Monarchy.

with a foreign Monarch, from wich we should seek to distance ourself.  You can't be truly independant if your head of state is foreign.  I now understand better why English Canadians see Quebec's independance with such a bad idea.  They themselves can't get over the fact that Canada is a seperate nation from England and need to re-assess their attachment to the crown at every opportunity.  For fuck sake, what's next?  The Royal Post Corporation?  The Royal Canadian National Bank?

If the Canadian army corps can't existe without reminding everyone that they are really the Queen's army, might as well not have a distinct army and merge it back with the British Empire.  They have that military tradition wich seem so important (curious that no soldier ever talked about it when you asked them what kind of problems they face or what they need to be done differently).

I'm pretty sure all those veterans without pension or without decent care will feel better now that they are part of the Royal army
I mean, how can it not solve all the problems the Canadian Armed Forces faces?  They will have tradition now   They will be anchored to the past and everyone will be constantly reminded we are still a British Colony, a part of their mighty Empire, governed by a foreign ruler.

I believe a country should look to the future, not constantly look at the past.  I tought the Conservatives clearly understood that, but it seems they really don't grasp something that simple.

To misquote Hume, you can't get an "is" from a "should". Canada is a Monarchy and it is consistent with all other monarchies to give the armed forces fancy royal names. If you are against the monarchy you should oppose the monarchy. I can't, however, consider it disingenuous to argue against making the monarchy as good and effective as possible given that you have one. I think you should agree with me, as a fellow republican living in a monarchy, that a well run monarchy that uses it's advantages is better than a badly run monarchy that pretends it's not there. As a democrat you should accept the fact, and it is a fact, that the monarchy retains democratic legitimacy as the system of government in Canada.

I am a republican. I do however see that there are some advantages to Monarchy, though, obviously on the whole I think the benefits of a good Republic far outweigh the benefits of a good Monarchy. These advantages include the humbling of professional politicians and the ability to take advantage of traditions in military and administration (where the politicians choose not to "reform" them). I think that putting "Royal" in front of the names of the military branches not only remind the soldiers but also the politicians that the military is not a plaything of government, but rather an institution of the "crown" (that is to say the country).

[Barrister]

You can't be truly independant if your head of state is foreign.

Why not?

Seems to me we have the best of both worlds - we have the tradition and stability that the monarchy brings, without having to actually pay for it.

[HVC]

Queens german anyway.

[Barrister]

Worse yet - she's married to a Greek.

[HVC]

Worse yet - she's married to a Greek.

i try to forget that cause he's cool. damn you!

[Valmy]

Queens german anyway.

She is as British as Queen Victoria!

[HVC]

Queens german anyway.

She is as British as Queen Victoria!

[Viking]

Queens german anyway.

She is as British as Queen Victoria!

Given that the Queen Mum is Scottish, I'm pretty sure that QE2 is much more British (but no more English) than Vicky.

[Palisadoes]

Worse yet - she's married to a Greek.

i try to forget that cause he's cool. damn you!

He's not *really* that Greek at all. Yes, he was born in Greece, but his formative years were not spent there.

[HVC]

Man when all these people find out their monarches are foreigners they're going to be pissed.

[Barrister]

Worse yet - she's married to a Greek.

i try to forget that cause he's cool. damn you!

He's not *really* that Greek at all. Yes, he was born in Greece, but his formative years were not spent there.

Killjoy.

He's more Greek than Liz is German.