Canada "too small" to develop Northwest Passage shipping, diplomat says

Started by jimmy olsen, August 14, 2011, 06:51:18 AM

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Josquius

Quote from: Viking on August 14, 2011, 08:35:59 AM
Quote from: Tyr on August 14, 2011, 08:14:17 AM
the article tells you why its too small. its north is empty, russia`s isnt

QuoteHowever, Byers said, opening up to transpolar shipping raises some difficult questions on how Canada will protect against oil spills or criminal activity — while its sovereignty over the waterway is still a matter of dispute.

hmmm...

:huh:
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Neil

The Americans have tried to get the NW passage through Canada made into an international strait for years now.  It's not really a big deal, as the US isn't willing to fight a war on the North American continent.
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We tremble at the thought of Canadian submarines sinking in our shipping lanes.

Razgovory

Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 14, 2011, 08:01:01 PM
We tremble at the thought of Canadian submarines sinking in our shipping lanes.

Did the Canadians borrow submarine designs from the Poles?
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Grey Fox

Quote from: Razgovory on August 14, 2011, 08:11:38 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 14, 2011, 08:01:01 PM
We tremble at the thought of Canadian submarines sinking in our shipping lanes.

Did the Canadians borrow submarine designs from the Poles?

We usually just buy second hand British sub. Where do British sub come from?
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Razgovory

This reminds about this really enterprising U-boat crew in WWII.  They docked in Colombia and then disassembled their ship, carried into Panama and reassembled it in the canal zone.  They sunk hundreds of American ships till the US Navy took wise.  They were only sunk some time in 1953.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Neil

Quote from: Razgovory on August 14, 2011, 08:37:02 PM
This reminds about this really enterprising U-boat crew in WWII.  They docked in Colombia and then disassembled their ship, carried into Panama and reassembled it in the canal zone.  They sunk hundreds of American ships till the US Navy took wise.  They were only sunk some time in 1953.
That doesn't sound like something that actually happened.
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Viking

Quote from: Neil on August 14, 2011, 08:40:08 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 14, 2011, 08:37:02 PM
This reminds about this really enterprising U-boat crew in WWII.  They docked in Colombia and then disassembled their ship, carried into Panama and reassembled it in the canal zone.  They sunk hundreds of American ships till the US Navy took wise.  They were only sunk some time in 1953.
That doesn't sound like something that actually happened.

The crew was so enterprising they not only managed to transcend the boundary between the Atlantic and the Pacific, but the boundary between reality and fiction as well...
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Razgovory

Quote from: Neil on August 14, 2011, 08:40:08 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 14, 2011, 08:37:02 PM
This reminds about this really enterprising U-boat crew in WWII.  They docked in Colombia and then disassembled their ship, carried into Panama and reassembled it in the canal zone.  They sunk hundreds of American ships till the US Navy took wise.  They were only sunk some time in 1953.
That doesn't sound like something that actually happened.

No, probably not, but I don't actually know for sure it didn't.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017


Ed Anger

Quote from: Razgovory on August 14, 2011, 08:37:02 PM
This reminds about this really enterprising U-boat crew in WWII.  They docked in Colombia and then disassembled their ship, carried into Panama and reassembled it in the canal zone.  They sunk hundreds of American ships till the US Navy took wise.  They were only sunk some time in 1953.

Cool story, bro.
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viper37

Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 14, 2011, 08:01:01 PM
We tremble at the thought of Canadian submarines sinking in our shipping lanes.
afaik, we don't have any working submarine anymore.  All 4 subs bought from the British have problems.  3 of them are out of commission for a while, one cannot go as deep as it should because of rust.
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Razgovory

Quote from: viper37 on August 15, 2011, 12:13:59 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 14, 2011, 08:01:01 PM
We tremble at the thought of Canadian submarines sinking in our shipping lanes.
afaik, we don't have any working submarine anymore.  All 4 subs bought from the British have problems.  3 of them are out of commission for a while, one cannot go as deep as it should because of rust.

They don't really have to work for them to sink in our sea lanes.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

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Quote from: Viking on August 14, 2011, 11:54:51 AM
I think the infrastructure required might be a fleet of 10-20 heavy ice breakers along with 10-20 safe harbours capable of supplying and repairing the same ice breakers as well as sheltering any ships that might seek to make the passage.

Then the Canadians are being sensible; it is premature to make that kind of investment.
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crazy canuck

There is going to be a lot more of this kind of rhetoric flying around as the North West Passage becomes more viable - assuming current climate models remain accurate.