Britain burns - Chavs ruin civilization

[Liep]

This is getting fucking stupid, Cameron is going to have to grow a pair tomorrow morning and really stamp this out.

Our politicians huffed and puffed at the youth when they rioted here a couple of years ago, but what stopped the riots was the ending of the school vacation.

[mongers]

This is getting fucking stupid, Cameron is going to have to grow a pair tomorrow morning and really stamp this out.

Our politicians huffed and puffed at the youth when they rioted here a couple of years ago, but what stopped the riots was the ending of the school vacation.

This looks more like Generation Playstation tries to emulate the Luftwaffe.

[Liep]

Has any private homes been set on fire?

[Ed Anger]

Between checking the twitters and the torygraph, this stuff is interfering with my enjoyment of Gordon Ramsay on Hell's Kitchen.

IT'S RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW.

[Neil]

This is getting fucking stupid, Cameron is going to have to grow a pair tomorrow morning and really stamp this out.

What can he do?  England will hardly stand for having all these youth receive the brutalization and execution that they so richly deserve.

[mongers]

Has any private homes been set on fire?

Given London's high demand for accommodation, the vast majority of shops have flats above them, so plenty of people and families have been made homeless; I notice the largest fire damaged building in Tottenham on Saturday made 26 families homeless.   

[mongers]

This is getting fucking stupid, Cameron is going to have to grow a pair tomorrow morning and really stamp this out.

What can he do?  England will hardly stand for having all these youth receive the brutalization and execution that they so richly deserve.

These fires have burnt through the last vestiges of his 'Big Society', I'd like to see 'big boot and big truncheon' taking up the slack for a while.

[Martim Silva]

This looks more like Generation Playstation tries to emulate the Luftwaffe.

In your opinion, what is worse for London:

a) a Luftwaffe raid,

or

b) a nigga with a Blackberry

[mongers]

This looks more like Generation Playstation tries to emulate the Luftwaffe.

In your opinion, what is worse for London:

a) a Luftwaffe raid,

or

b) a nigga with a Blackberry

Notice the qualification in the sentence "tries to emulate".

[mongers]

Huge fire at a large Sony depot in Enfield is this related to the riots ?

This is the depot destroyed:
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Solar+Way,+Enfield&hl=en&ll=51.67825,-0.020685&spn=0.007491,0.01929&gl=uk&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=51.67813,-0.020729&panoid=EaPrx6XK2RROF6SMsjz-Xw&cbp=12,152.42,,0,7.61

edit:
Eyewitnesses report it was attacked by looters.


edit:
several areas of Bristol experience disturbances.   

edit 2:
the warehouse had previously been misidentified as the Sainsburys warehouse

[citizen k]

The revolution to redistribute candy has begun.

LONDON (AP) — British police say violence and looting has spread to a third city, with authorities handling outbreaks of violence in the northern city of Liverpool.

Liverpool's police department said officers were responding to a "number of isolated outbreaks of disorder," including vehicles set ablaze and buildings attacked in the city's southern neighborhoods.

It follows a major escalation of rioting across London since a wave of violence first broke out on Saturday night. Police in the country's central city of Birmingham also confirmed more than 30 people had been arrested after shops in a main retail district were attacked.

Shops and cars were set ablaze across London late Monday and early on Tuesday as authorities struggled to contain a third night of unrest in Britain's capital, which will host next summer's Olympic Games.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

LONDON (AP) — Violence and looting flared across London on Tuesday — and spread to a second major city — as shops and cars were set ablaze and authorities struggled to contain a third night of unrest in Britain's capital, which will host next summer's Olympic Games.

The worst rioting in London in decades saw buildings, vehicles and garbage dumps set alight, stores burglarized and police officers pelted with bottles and fireworks, as groups of young people rampaged through neighborhoods across the capital from mid-afternoon Monday into the early hours of Tuesday.

A massive blaze swept through a 100-year-old family-run furniture store in the town of Croydon, in south London, and sent thick plumes of smoke into the air, forcing nearby homes to be evacuated.

Police confirmed they were investigating a nonfatal shooting in Croydon, but were unable to say whether or not the incident was linked to the chaos.

In the nation's central city of Birmingham, dozens of people attacked shops in a main retail district — spreading the chaos beyond London for the first time since violence broke out on Saturday night.

As authorities struggled to keep pace with unrest at dozens of flashpoints, Prime Minister David Cameron announced he would cut short his summer vacation in Italy and will convene a meeting of the government's crisis committee on Tuesday to toughen the response to the violence.

In the Hackney area of east London, hundreds of youths attacked shops and set fire to cars, leaving a trail of burning trash and shattered glass. Looters ducked into a small convenience store as the blackened husks of two cars burned low nearby, filling plastic shopping bags with alcohol, cigarettes, candy and toilet paper.

"This is the uprising of the working class, we're redistributing the wealth," said Bryn Phillips, a 28-year-old self-described anarchist, as young people emerged from the store with chocolate bars and ice cream cones.

Phillips claimed rioters were motivated by distrust of the police, and drew a link between the rage on London's street and insurgent right-wing politics in the United States. "In America you have the tea party, in England you've got this," he said.

Police acknowledged Tuesday that major new bouts of violence had flared in at least five locations, badly stretching their resources. Many more neighborhoods saw mobs vandalize commercial streets or break into buildings — some acting with virtual impunity, as authorities struggled to deploy officers to the every scene of unrest .

"The violence we have seen is simply inexcusable. Ordinary people have had their lives turned upside down by this mindless thuggery," police commander Christine Jones said, as she confirmed that 225 people had been arrested and 36 people charged with offenses so far.

Violence broke out late Saturday in London's northern Tottenham district when peaceful protest over the fatal police shooting of Mark Duggan, a 29-year-old father of four who was gunned down in disputed circumstances Thursday, turned violent. Two police cars and a double-decker bus were set alight, stores were looted and several buildings along Tottenham's main street — five miles (eight kilometers) from the site of the 2012 Olympics — were reduced to smoldering shells.

Though the unrest escalated through Sunday as disorder spread among neighboring areas, the crisis worsened Monday — as violence touched areas in the east and south of London previously untroubled by the chaos, leaving young thugs free to set fires and steal from high street stores.

"There is significant disorder breaking out in a number of our communities across London," Tim Godwin, the acting London police commissioner said Monday, acknowledging that 1,700 extra officers had been deployed across London, but were struggling to halt the unrest.

Some residents called for police to deploy water cannons to disperse rioters, or call on the military for support.

About a hundred young people clashed early Tuesday with police in the Camden and Chalk Farm areas of north London, while others tore through a department store in the busy south London suburb of Clapham.

The small groups of youths — most with their heads and faces covered — used SMS messages, instant messaging on BlackBerry cell phones and social media such as Twitter to coordinate their attacks and outwit the police.

Once the preserve of businesspeople, BlackBerry handsets are popular with teenagers, thanks to their free, fast instant messaging system. Blackberry's manufacturer, Research in Motion, said in a statement that they were assisting authorities in their investigation and "feel for those impacted by the riots in London."

Police were also monitoring Twitter, and warned that those who posted messages inciting the violence could face arrest.

In the Peckham district of south London, where a building was set ablaze along with a bus — which was not carrying passengers — onlookers said the scene resembled a conflict zone. Cars were torched in nearby Lewisham, and shops looted in south London's Clapham district.

"There's been tension for a long time. The kids aren't happy. They hate the police," said Matthew Yeoland, a 43-year-old teacher watching the unrest in Peckham. "It's like a war zone and the police weren't doing anything. There were too many people and not enough police."

Duggan's death last Thursday stirred old animosities despite efforts by London police to build better relations with the city's ethnic communities after high profile cases of racism in recent decades.

Police say Duggan was shot dead when police from Operation Trident — the unit that investigates gun crime in the black community — stopped a cab he was riding in.

The Independent Police Complaints Commission, which is investigating the shooting, said a "non-police firearm" was recovered at the scene, and media reports said a bullet had been found in an officer's radio.

However, the Guardian newspaper reported that the bullet in the radio was police-issue, indicating Duggan may not have fired at the officer.

Duggan's partner, Semone Wilson, insisted Monday that her fiance was not connected to gang violence and urged police to offer more information about his death. But she said the riots appeared to be no longer linked to the initial protests. "It got out of hand. It's not connected to this any more. This is out of control," she said.

Many Tottenham residents claimed that the looting was the work of greedy youths — rather than fueled by anti-police sentiments.

"It's nothing to do with the man who was shot, is it?" said 37-year-old Marcia Simmons, who has lived in the diverse and gritty north London neighborhood all her life. "A lot of youths ... heard there was a protest and joined in. Others used it as an opportunity to kit themselves out, didn't they, with shoes and T-shirts and everything."

As the unrest spread, some pointed to rising social tensions in Britain as the government slashes 80 billion pounds ($130 billion) from public spending by 2015 to reduce the huge deficit, swollen after the country spent billions bailing out its foundering banks.

The past year has seen mass protests against the tripling of student tuition fees and cuts to public sector pensions. In November, December and March, small groups broke away from large marches in London to loot. In the most notorious episode, rioters attacked a Rolls-Royce carrying Prince Charles and his wife Camilla to a charity concert.

However, the full impact of spending cuts has yet to be felt and the unemployment rate is stable — although it highest among youth, especially in areas like Tottenham, Hackney and Croydon.

Some locals insisted that joblessness was not to blame. "We are going to get people blaming the economy and what happened last week, but that's not the real reason this happened," said Brixton resident Marilyn Moseley, 49. "It's just an excuse for the young ones to come and rob shops."

Godwin urged communities to help clear the streets of people, and called on families to contact their children and ensure that they were not involved in the chaos.

Home Secretary Theresa May, the Cabinet minister responsible for policing, and London Mayor Boris Johnson also cut short summer vacations in an attempt to deal with the crisis.

May said 215 people had been arrested and 27 charged so far, including an 11-year-old boy accused of burglary. About 100 of those arrested were 21 or younger and 35 police officers had been injured in the violence, police said.

Police in the city of Birmingham, 120 miles (195 kilometers) north of London, confirmed that officers had arrested 35 people amid disorder across the city center, where shops were being vandalized.

In the south London neighborhood of Brixton — the scene of riots in the 1980s and 1990s — youths smashed windows, attacked a police car, set fire to garbage bins and stole video games, sportswear and other goods from stores on Sunday night.

Like Brixton, Tottenham is an impoverished area with an ethnically diverse population, a large black community and a history of unrest.

Tottenham was the site of the 1985 Broadwater Farm riots, a series of clashes that led to the fatal stabbing of a police officer and the wounding of nearly 60 others — and underscored tensions between London police and the capital's black community.

For civic leaders and Olympic organizers, the violence was an unwelcome reminder of London's volatility, less than a year before the city hosts the 2012 Games.

West Ham, a football team in east London, confirmed it had canceled a match planned for Tuesday and said police had asked for "all major public events" to be postponed. However, the national Football Association insisted that a scheduled international friendly match between England and the Netherlands would go ahead at Wembley Stadium on Wednesday.

The International Olympic Committee said it had confidence in British authorities. "Security at the Olympic Games is a top priority for the IOC," spokesman Mark Adams said.

[Neil]

Well, hopefully more of this shit happens during the Olympics.  It'd be the first time that something interesting happened at the Summer Olympics in years and years.

[CountDeMoney]

No kidding.  I was too young to remember the Germans letting the Jews die.

[mongers]

Cameron and Boris Johnson's slow return to the country looks very bad, especially as Cameron could have come back earlier due to the Eurozone crisis. 


Maybe in the morning we'll see troops on thes streets ?  Might not be necessary for policing, but for PR and underlying the seriousness of the situation, might warrant it.

edit:
maybe the O.poster could change the title of the thread to reflect the greatly changed events ?

[Eddie Teach]

I found Phelps and Bolt's exploits in Beijing interesting enough.