Most Overrated President

[Ideologue]

Monsters.

[Habbaku]

Monsters.

Don't think we've ever voted for him.

[Razgovory]

You know who is overrated, but left out of the Poll.  Jackson.  The guy was like a god to Democrats for decades (and is considered the founder of the Democratic Party).  Truman considered him the best, and Jackson was terrible.  His actions on the trail of tears verge on dictatorial control (beside the unjustness and wickedness of the act), he advocated policy based on personal grudges and killed the Bank of the United States  which destroy the US economy.  He was beloved by many, and might be considered the first "populist" president.  He is often associated with widening enfranchisement in the US, though I don't know how much he actually had to do with it.  I give him credit for preventing civil war in the nullification crisis as his enemies knew he had a few screws loose and when he stated that he would hang them, they believed it.  A Civil War in 1830's could have actually favored the South, or at least diminished the advantages of the North.

We don't have a list of underrated Presidents.  Polk and Taft would be good candidates.

[Capetan Mihali]

I give him credit for preventing civil war in the nullification crisis as his enemies knew he had a few screws loose and when he stated that he would hang them, they believed it.

LOL, the quotation (from Wikipedia): "Jackson would have the final words a few days later when a visitor from South Carolina asked if Jackson had any message he wanted relayed to his friends back in the state. Jackson's reply was:

'Yes I have; please give my compliments to my friends in your State and say to them, that if a single drop of blood shall be shed there in opposition to the laws of the United States, I will hang the first man I can lay my hand on engaged in such treasonable conduct, upon the first tree I can reach.'"

Obama needs to pull a page out of Jackson's book.   

[Ideologue]

You know who is overrated, but left out of the Poll.  Jackson.  The guy was like a god to Democrats for decades (and is considered the founder of the Democratic Party).  Truman considered him the best, and Jackson was terrible.  His actions on the trail of tears verge on dictatorial control (beside the unjustness and wickedness of the act), he advocated policy based on personal grudges and killed the Bank of the United States  which destroy the US economy.  He was beloved by many, and might be considered the first "populist" president.  He is often associated with widening enfranchisement in the US, though I don't know how much he actually had to do with it.  I give him credit for preventing civil war in the nullification crisis as his enemies knew he had a few screws loose and when he stated that he would hang them, they believed it.  A Civil War in 1830's could have actually favored the South, or at least diminished the advantages of the North.

No, I don't disagree at all.  Jackson was a bad, bad president, but I can't help but admire how he threatened to destroy South Carolina, which, as you know, is a treasured dream of my own.

[Ed Anger]

You know who is overrated, but left out of the Poll.  Jackson.  The guy was like a god to Democrats for decades (and is considered the founder of the Democratic Party).  Truman considered him the best, and Jackson was terrible.  His actions on the trail of tears verge on dictatorial control (beside the unjustness and wickedness of the act), he advocated policy based on personal grudges and killed the Bank of the United States  which destroy the US economy.  He was beloved by many, and might be considered the first "populist" president.  He is often associated with widening enfranchisement in the US, though I don't know how much he actually had to do with it.  I give him credit for preventing civil war in the nullification crisis as his enemies knew he had a few screws loose and when he stated that he would hang them, they believed it.  A Civil War in 1830's could have actually favored the South, or at least diminished the advantages of the North.

No, I don't disagree at all.  Jackson was a bad, bad president, but I can't help but admire how he threatened to destroy South Carolina, which, as you know, is a treasured dream of my own.

Save Charleston for me.

[Razgovory]

I give him credit for preventing civil war in the nullification crisis as his enemies knew he had a few screws loose and when he stated that he would hang them, they believed it.

LOL, the quotation (from Wikipedia): "Jackson would have the final words a few days later when a visitor from South Carolina asked if Jackson had any message he wanted relayed to his friends back in the state. Jackson's reply was:

'Yes I have; please give my compliments to my friends in your State and say to them, that if a single drop of blood shall be shed there in opposition to the laws of the United States, I will hang the first man I can lay my hand on engaged in such treasonable conduct, upon the first tree I can reach.'"

Obama needs to pull a page out of Jackson's book.   

Oh, yeah.  You didn't fuck with Jackson.  When a would-be assassin tried to kill him, Jackson started to kicked his ass.  His closest friend was Thomas Heart Benton, who had  once shot Jackson.  When a Man insulted Jackson's wife, he challenged the guy to a duel (and the guy was considered one of the finest duelists in the country).  He shot Jackson, and Jackson just stood there aimed his gun, and killed the man.  He later said he would have shot the guy even if he been first shot through the brain.  He's one of the most interesting presidents, that 's for certain.

[Ideologue]

You know who is overrated, but left out of the Poll.  Jackson.  The guy was like a god to Democrats for decades (and is considered the founder of the Democratic Party).  Truman considered him the best, and Jackson was terrible.  His actions on the trail of tears verge on dictatorial control (beside the unjustness and wickedness of the act), he advocated policy based on personal grudges and killed the Bank of the United States  which destroy the US economy.  He was beloved by many, and might be considered the first "populist" president.  He is often associated with widening enfranchisement in the US, though I don't know how much he actually had to do with it.  I give him credit for preventing civil war in the nullification crisis as his enemies knew he had a few screws loose and when he stated that he would hang them, they believed it.  A Civil War in 1830's could have actually favored the South, or at least diminished the advantages of the North.

No, I don't disagree at all.  Jackson was a bad, bad president, but I can't help but admire how he threatened to destroy South Carolina, which, as you know, is a treasured dream of my own.

Save Charleston for me.

Well, I meant as a political entity, but I'd spare Charleston anyway since my sister lives there.

[AnchorClanker]

I'm torn between Wilson and JFK. 

[garbon]

I'm torn between Wilson and JFK. 

In high school, they presented us with Wilson being too idealistic.

[OttoVonBismarck]

Wilson's got all the good faults. Terrible foreign policy, terrible domestic policy, and he was an extreme racist and supporter of the Ku Klux Klan.

He was like a white Barack Obama, essentially.

[DGuller]

He later said he would have shot the guy even if he been first shot through the brain.

He may have even believed it himself, but I doubt he would be able to carry out that intention had he been indeed shot through the brain.  Having your brain destroyed not only plays a number on your motor skills, but more often than not it leads to near-instantaneous unconsciousness.  He would neither be able to shoot accurately, or even pull the trigger at all.  Jackson was lucky that he wasn't shot through the brain.

[The Brain]

He later said he would have shot the guy even if he been first shot through the brain.

He may have even believed it himself, but I doubt he would be able to carry out that intention had he been indeed shot through the brain.  Having your brain destroyed not only plays a number on your motor skills, but more often than not it leads to near-instantaneous unconsciousness.  He would neither be able to shoot accurately, or even pull the trigger at all.  Jackson was lucky that he wasn't shot through the brain.

Remember that we only use 3% of the brain.

[Queequeg]

Wilson's got all the good faults. Terrible foreign policy, terrible domestic policy, and he was an extreme racist and supporter of the Ku Klux Klan.

He was like a white Barack Obama, essentially.

What part of Obama's foreign policy do you disagree with?  You're a great deal too smart to engage in this Hansian bullshit seriously. 

[jimmy olsen]

Wilson's got all the good faults. Terrible foreign policy, terrible domestic policy, and he was an extreme racist and supporter of the Ku Klux Klan.

He was like a white Barack Obama, essentially.

What part of Obama's foreign policy do you disagree with?  You're a great deal too smart to engage in this Hansian bullshit seriously.

I think that last sentence was a joke.