10 Things You Might Not Know About America's Independence

[viper37]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/04/10-things-might-not-know-about-our-independence/

I have doubts about #3, 5,6,7 and 8...

According to our Founders, the states are not indivisible, but very much  the opposite. In fact, when ratifying the U.S. Constitution, some  states, such as Virginia among others, specifically declared the right  to secede from the Union should they feel it necessary just as an extra  precaution to make sure that that state right was understood.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/04/10-things-might-not-know-about-our-independence/#ixzz1RHDCVHxG

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[HisMajestyBOB]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/04/10-things-might-not-know-about-our-independence/

I have doubts about #3, 5,6,7 and 8...

According to our Founders, the states are not indivisible, but very much  the opposite. In fact, when ratifying the U.S. Constitution, some  states, such as Virginia among others, specifically declared the right  to secede from the Union should they feel it necessary just as an extra  precaution to make sure that that state right was understood.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/04/10-things-might-not-know-about-our-independence/#ixzz1RHDCVHxG

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If they didn't get it in writing, it doesn't count. 

[CountDeMoney]

Read more: www.foxne

Yeah, that's about as far as I needed to go.

[Caliga]

Mony = prejudiss 

[katmai]

With great reason Caliga.

[jimmy olsen]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/04/10-things-might-not-know-about-our-independence/

I have doubts about #3, 5,6,7 and 8...

According to our Founders, the states are not indivisible, but very much  the opposite. In fact, when ratifying the U.S. Constitution, some  states, such as Virginia among others, specifically declared the right  to secede from the Union should they feel it necessary just as an extra  precaution to make sure that that state right was understood.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/04/10-things-might-not-know-about-our-independence/#ixzz1RHDCVHxG

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If they didn't get it in writing, it doesn't count. 

[Neil]

1.  That the American Revolution was an act of villainy without parallel in history.

[MadImmortalMan]

In fact, when ratifying the U.S. Constitution, some  states, such as Virginia among others, specifically declared the right  to secede from the Union should they feel it necessary

I don't think that's all that widely unknown. Maybe among Fox readers.

[FunkMonk]

1.  That the American Revolution was an act of villainy without parallel in history.

Sometimes it's good to be the bad guy.

[Scipio]

1.  That the American Revolution was an act of villainy without parallel in history.

I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you.  I was busy witnessing the power of our fully operational revolution.

[Neil]

1.  That the American Revolution was an act of villainy without parallel in history.

I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you.  I was busy witnessing the power of our fully operational revolution.

Well, it couldn't have been that powerful, seeing as it failed in its war of aggression to the north.

[dps]

I have doubts about #3, 5,6,7 and 8...

I'm not sure why you'd have doubts about 3.  I don't necessarily know that the info in 3 is 100% accurate, but the general thrust of it seems right.

5 is a matter of interpretation, and 6 is definately technically correct, but it's just semantics, at least now--in casual modern usage,  a "democracy" and a "republic" are the same thing, but they weren't in the 18 century.  Don't see why you'd doubt it, though.

7?  Who knows, really?  Who cares?

As for 8, well, that's tricky.  I think it's possibly correct as to how the founding fathers saw things in 1776--after all, the text of the Declaration of Independence says, "That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States".  However, the Articles of Confederation stated that the union was to be perpetual, which doesn't sound like it was intened that states could leave if they wanted, and the Articles were ratified just 5 years later (and Congress had been generally adhering to them, in one form or another, since shortly after the Declaration of Independence was adopted).  I'm sure some of the Founders thought of the new nation as a temporary or potentially temporary arrangement at the time, but I'm not sure what the consensus would have been.  And how the surviving Founders would have felt about the issue when the Constituion was ratifies in 1789, or later in their lives, might be a very different story.

[grumbler]

The article shows that Nicole Swinford is an idiot who loves to state as fact things that are merely opinion.

There are almost certainly no credible historians who still doubt that Thomas Jefferson fathered Sally Henning's children, for instance.  While the DNA only narrows the possibilities to something like five men, only Thomas Jefferson himself had the opportunities. 

And yes, the US is a democracy.  It isn't a pure democracy, true, but democracy means "rule by the people" and the US has that.

The Paul Revere stuff is well-known, as is Adams' role in the Boston Massacre trial.

[grumbler]

Well, it couldn't have been that powerful, seeing as it failed in its war of aggression to the north.

It succeeded quite well in that war. 

[garbon]

1.  That the American Revolution was an act of villainy without parallel in history.

That's a bit much. But yes you are right that it was hardly justified.