Weather WTF

[mongers]

Well into the 70s in southern England today; had a minor mechanic issue so had to walk 4 or 5 miles home through the forest and what with the heat, the stronger sunlight and  I kid you not a buzzard* circling me it would almost be a scene out of a disaster (british) movie. 


*Whatever a british buzzard is called in your country, but for us quite a big bird and a nice looking sawing flight.

Lol. I laughed at the buzzard part!     

Good thing you didn't stop, or lie down to take a nap.     

Yeah, it's weird must be the first time I've seen one in that bit of forest for 3-4 years; there used to be a old buzzard that sometimes flew down and swooped in front of my as I rode through the forest, sometimes as close as 20-30 feet.   

[ulmont]

I think he means a hawk.

No this is what we call a buzzard:
http://www.rspb.org.uk/wildlife/birdguide/name/b/buzzard/index.aspx

Yeah, that's a hawk.  Very similar to our red-tailed hawk in shape, size and coloration:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red-tailed_Hawk

[CountDeMoney]

I think he means a hawk.

No this is what we call a buzzard:

That's a hawk, banana hammock.

[Razgovory]

I think he means a hawk.

No this is what we call a buzzard:
http://www.rspb.org.uk/wildlife/birdguide/name/b/buzzard/index.aspx

Yeah, that's a hawk.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buteo

[mongers]

I think he means a hawk.

No this is what we call a buzzard:
http://www.rspb.org.uk/wildlife/birdguide/name/b/buzzard/index.aspx

Yeah, that's a hawk.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buteo

In one sense that's exactly what they weren't, as originally hawk described a bird used for falconry, whereas buzzards are useless for that and so a different thing, an inferior bird, well at least as far as the uses humans can put them to.   

[Razgovory]

In another sense, they are both squids.  More realistically, it's a hawk.

[KRonn]

I do see hawks around here. When I worked in Boston, there were pigeons in the hospital parking garage. I used to see falcons, or maybe they were hawks, roaming around, hunting, in the garage.

[mongers]

In another sense, they are both squids.  More realistically, it's a hawk.

I was mealy pointing out the origin of the names, for more on the North American confusion with the naming of these birds of prey, see here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzzard

[Razgovory]

Actually it's a European confusion.  Anyway, I was already aware of the confusion between the British and American terms.  That's why I said "I think he means a hawk".  Despite my primitive bronze age beliefs, I do know a little about zoology.

[PDH]

I think that is a hawk, Mongers.

[Barrister]

Doesn't that bird look more like a hawk though?

[mongers]

Actually it's a European confusion.  Anyway, I was already aware of the confusion between the British and American terms.  That's why I said "I think he means a hawk".  Despite my primitive bronze age beliefs, I do know a little about zoology.

Yeah Raz, but with all due respect I actually get out and see these things, you're sitting about inside trying to apply a category to sometime and trying to win an argue about it on the internet.
Menwhile next time I see one, I'll think oh look a buzzard, because like the vast majority of Brits, that's what there called them.

Raz, might I make a suggestion, you get out more and spend less of the spring and summer days on the interweb ? 

[Razgovory]

Dude, I see hawks all the time.  They live around my house.  I also see Turkey vultures which we call Buzzards.  I don't even have leave my house to see them.  A few weeks ago I saw a large white owl in neighborhood.  Every time it came close to my house crows or blue jays would drive it off (I have several bird feeders out so a lot of seed eating birds are around my house.  They don't like Owls in the area since they eat smaller birds).

[CountDeMoney]

It is fucking cold out today.  Wind chill has it in the 30s.  And what wind.  Bucket trucks all over the place, fixing shit from the last two days.

[Razgovory]

It's 69 here.