So we hit the debt limit...

[Fate]

I eagerly await your tears when President Bachman forgets all about the deficit.

Nobody can forget about the deficit any longer.  We've passed the point where it conveniently can be ignored.

Deficits don't matter. Didn't Reagan prove that?

[Fate]

You seem to have missed the part where Obama had a majority in each house of the legislative branch through the first two years of his term, and instead of passing budgets, he passed a broken healthcare plan...

He passed a budget for fiscal years 2010 and 2011. 

[Grallon]

Will there be - or is there already - a backlash against the Republicans for their blatant self-serving short-sighted obstructionism?  Or are Americans so jaded by their shenanigans they don't care anymore?




G.

[Admiral Yi]

He passed a budget for fiscal years 2010 and 2011. 

Unless the fiscal year is weirder than I thought, he didn't pass one for 2011.  That's why we were able to enjoy the theater of the four threatened government shutdowns this spring.

[Neil]

You seem to have missed the part where Obama had a majority in each house of the legislative branch through the first two years of his term, and instead of passing budgets, he passed a broken healthcare plan...

He passed a budget for fiscal years 2010 and 2011. 

He forgot to pass the tax increases.

[Razgovory]

He passed a budget for fiscal years 2010 and 2011. 

Unless the fiscal year is weirder than I thought, he didn't pass one for 2011.  That's why we were able to enjoy the theater of the four threatened government shutdowns this spring.

Did we pass one in 2010?  Some of the Goptards were on Pdox were raving about how there was no budget passed last year or something.

[Fate]

He passed a budget for fiscal years 2010 and 2011. 

Unless the fiscal year is weirder than I thought, he didn't pass one for 2011.  That's why we were able to enjoy the theater of the four threatened government shutdowns this spring.

He did pass one. That's why the government didn't shut down.

[Neil]

If he passed a budget, then he alone bears responsibility for the current crisis.

[Fate]

If he passed a budget, then he alone bears responsibility for the current crisis.

Under what principle does the Congress bear no responsibility? The Constitution requires that all spending bills must originate from the House, not the President. I agree that he shares responsibility.

[Admiral Yi]

He did pass one. That's why the government didn't shut down.

  OK, he passed a budget in April, halfway through the budget year.

[Neil]

If he passed a budget, then he alone bears responsibility for the current crisis.

Under what principle does the Congress bear no responsibility? The Constitution requires that all spending bills must originate from the House, not the President. I agree that he shares responsibility.

He's leader of his party, and his personal popularity had a lot to do with their domination of the legislature.

[KRonn]

I eagerly await your tears when President Bachman forgets all about the deficit.

Nobody can forget about the deficit any longer.  We've passed the point where it conveniently can be ignored.

Deficits don't matter. Didn't Reagan prove that?

I don't think Reagan, or anyone else, envisioned the kind of deficits run up by Bush 2 and Obama and their respective Congresses. Otherwise, the nation seems to be able to run just fine with a deficit, albeit a manageable one, though what is manageable differs quite a lot for different people.   

[Razgovory]

I don't think Reagan, or anyone else, envisioned the kind of deficits run up by Bush 2 and Obama and their respective Congresses. Otherwise, the nation seems to be able to run just fine with a deficit, albeit a manageable one, though what is manageable differs quite a lot for different people.   

Reagan always had a limited imagination.

[derspiess]

I eagerly await your tears when President Bachman forgets all about the deficit.

Nobody can forget about the deficit any longer.  We've passed the point where it conveniently can be ignored.

I bet people said that after the first Bush administration.

Yeah, but only goofball Perot voters.

I seriously think the deficit and debt are going to be unignorable by whomever the President and majority parties are until they are decisively dealt with.  "Deficits don't matter" (misguided a statement as it was) may well have been the political reality of 10 years ago, but that era has passed.

[crazy canuck]

I don't think Reagan, or anyone else, envisioned the kind of deficits run up by Bush 2 and Obama and their respective Congresses. Otherwise, the nation seems to be able to run just fine with a deficit, albeit a manageable one, though what is manageable differs quite a lot for different people.   

Reagan always had a limited imagination.

Its funny because back in the day the critics said his imagination was too vivid.