Because Euroweenism deserves its own MEGATHREAD

[Martinus]

I also love how this article insinuates that a single German commentator = all Germans = all Central Europeans = all Europeans.

This is a pretty pathetic piece of pseudo-journalist crap, that's why I would be interested where it was published.

[Syt]

I also love how this article insinuates that a single German commentator = all Germans = all Central Europeans = all Europeans.

This is a pretty pathetic piece of pseudo-journalist crap, that's why I would be interested where it was published.

WaPo OpEd:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/obamas-fickle-european-fans/2011/03/04/AFg6O40F_blog.html

[Martinus]

Incidentally, from what I could gather both in Poland and rest of Europe, the overwhelming take in Europe on Osama's death is this:

Q: What do you think about Osama's death?
A: It is a good thing, but the political ramifications are probably overhyped.

Q: What do you think about the view that he should have been brought to trial?
A: Would probably look better, but most likely unrealistic.

Q: What do you think about Americans cheering in the streets?
A: Somewhat tacky, but psychologically understandeable.

[Martinus]

Also, the consensus among the talking heads seems to be that the international law basis for the operation was rather grey-ish but noone is going to make a fuss about it.

[Valmy]

I get that it is the usual nutty anti-American douchebags.  They just piss me off.

I mean the Muslim world is really going to get angry over Osama being killed?  Yet this is not the first time I heard this crap.

[Berkut]

Also, the consensus among the talking heads seems to be that the international law basis for the operation was rather grey-ish but noone is going to make a fuss about it.

Well, I think the international law about counter terrorism in general is pretty damn greyish. Which maybe is for the best.

I cannot imagine any actual international law that could be put together that would allow the US to, for example, launch missile strikes into other sovereign nations that we are not even at war with, and who is not "officially" harboring the targets, and has not even given technical permission for the US to launch said strikes.

On the other hand, I cannot really fathom the idea that the US (or any nation for that matter) would have its hands tied when it comes to acting against terrorists if they manage to get themselves into some fucked up nation like Pakistan.

Seems like the best solution (albeit not a "good" solution) is to leave it all rather murky...

[Malthus]

I get that it is the usual nutty anti-American douchebags.  They just piss me off.

I mean the Muslim world is really going to get angry over Osama being killed?  Yet this is not the first time I heard this crap.

Is there any evidence that the Muslim world is, in fact, really angry about Osama's death?

[Martinus]

I get that it is the usual nutty anti-American douchebags.  They just piss me off.

Ok, but remember it next time when you guys jump on me for being pissed off at "Americans" for doing something racist or anti-gay.

[Cecil]

Well I havent heard anyone over here kicking up any fuss over Osama being shot in the face repeatedly. Maybe a few lefties but noone listens to them these days anyway.

[Richard Hakluyt]

Nobody seems to be bothered here either, and that includes the 10% or so that are muslims.

[Zanza2]

I also love how this article insinuates that a single German commentator = all Germans

While "all Germans" is of course an unwarranted generalization, there was a considerable amount of comments like the one from Schönenborn, who by the way is a mainstream journalist, in respectable media outlets. So it is fair enough to pick him as an example of the general media echo. Caveat: I have only seen the headlines and not read those comments, so maybe I am generalizing here too.

Angela Merkel's comment was retarded. She should know that by law she is not allowed to be happy about someone being killed. In her official function she is supposed to uphold the values of our constitution, which thanks to our not so nice past, values every life, no matter what.

But it was a quite slow newsweek here so that might explain it. There were also quite a few sensationalist TV shows on the "top secret, ultra hard bla bla superlative" Navy SEALs in German TV, something not usually shown on any mainstream channels.

[Valmy]

Ok, but remember it next time when you guys jump on me for being pissed off at "Americans" for doing something racist or anti-gay.

I never said jackshit about Euros I was talking specifically about the dude doing the saying.  If you want to be pissed off at any specific Americans for doing racist things or anti-gay things be my guest.

[Ed Anger]

Your temper is turning me on Val.

[Valmy]

Is there any evidence that the Muslim world is, in fact, really angry about Osama's death?

Nope.  There might have been back when his reputation was 'Hammer of the Soviets' but the world has moved on.

[PDH]

Valmy is good in a rage. You should see when Texas football sucks for a quarter and a half. THAT is real rage.