Because Euroweenism deserves its own MEGATHREAD

[Ed Anger]

Dammit Bobby!

[Martinus]

Ok, but remember it next time when you guys jump on me for being pissed off at "Americans" for doing something racist or anti-gay.

I never said jackshit about Euros I was talking specifically about the dude doing the saying.  If you want to be pissed off at any specific Americans for doing racist things or anti-gay things be my guest.

You used the general noun "they" twice in your rants, and "you" once. You never used "he". Hence I assumed you were not talking only about the guy.

[Martinus]

Angela Merkel's comment was retarded. She should know that by law she is not allowed to be happy about someone being killed.

Is this only because she is a public official, or is there a law which would prevent e.g. you from going on public record saying you are glad X is dead?

[Martinus]

Nobody seems to be bothered here either, and that includes the 10% or so that are muslims.

Here the chief media concern is "Will Poland be targeted as a result", which is hillarious. The President even went on record, saying that Poland is safe. 

[Zanza2]

From what I can tell what was remarkable this time was that there were a lot of conservatives, not your usual America-critics, among those that mainly criticized Angela Merkel's comments that she felt joy. A lot of Christians in the Christian Democratic Union, Merkel's party, said it was unwarranted for a Christian to feel joy at the killing of a human.

The other comments often aim at how this was an extrajudicial execution and how the "War on Terror" doesn't care for international conventions and laws and also ignores a lot of the basic tenets of rule of law by just declaring enemy combatants to be outlaws that can be killed at the whim of the military or executive. As that's similar to how the Nazis declared people void of rights and then proceeded to kill them, German lawtalkers, philosophers etc. are very worried about any hint of a slippery slope.

[Valmy]

You used the general noun "they" twice in your rants, and "you" once. You never used "he". Hence I assumed you were not talking only about the guy.

Yes becuase I am a well known Eurohater.  You should just assume that is where I am going.

[Valmy]

Valmy is good in a rage. You should see when Texas football sucks for a quarter and a half. THAT is real rage.

You were lucky to get out of that stadium alive!

[Zanza2]

Angela Merkel's comment was retarded. She should know that by law she is not allowed to be happy about someone being killed.

Is this only because she is a public official, or is there a law which would prevent e.g. you from going on public record saying you are glad X is dead?

"By law" was wrong. It is more that her comment doesn't fit with the spirit, not the words of the constitution. Of course you can express your happiness about someone being killed (well, not in a Westboro Baptist Church way - that's actually illegal). But her being one of the highest representatives of the state means that she should also live the values of our constitution and of her Christian party and people complain she fell short there. But she didn't do anything illegal, just stupid.

[Martinus]

From what I can tell what was remarkable this time was that there were a lot of conservatives, not your usual America-critics, among those that mainly criticized Angela Merkel's comments that she felt joy. A lot of Christians in the Christian Democratic Union, Merkel's party, said it was unwarranted for a Christian to feel joy at the killing of a human.

The other comments often aim at how this was an extrajudicial execution and how the "War on Terror" doesn't care for international conventions and laws and also ignores a lot of the basic tenets of rule of law by just declaring enemy combatants to be outlaws that can be killed at the whim of the military or executive. As that's similar to how the Nazis declared people void of rights and then proceeded to kill them, German lawtalkers, philosophers etc. are very worried about any hint of a slippery slope.

I gotta say I respect the "universalist legalist" stance that is so prevalent in German culture, even if it is annoying at times. German clients can be most annoying because they often want to be explained the entire principle and are not just happy with a Polish lawyer telling that that under Polish law "this works" (as opposed to French or American clients, who hardly ever want to hear the explanation and just want a two-sentence executive summary).

[Richard Hakluyt]

Yes, there is an earnest streak in German culture and I think we may have a good example here. Strictly speaking they are probably correct; it's just that most people are not so punctilious 

[Ed Anger]

Dealing with Germans in business: 

Anal retentive fucks. 

[Syt]

Dealing with Germans in business: 

Anal retentive fucks. 

You've never had to do with the formalities around making money transfers to Russians or Ukrainians, I take it? Both countries are bureaucratic nightmares that make Germans look like laid back hippies.

[Ed Anger]

Dealing with Germans in business: 

Anal retentive fucks. 

You've never had to do with the formalities around making money transfers to Russians or Ukrainians, I take it? Both countries are bureaucratic nightmares that make Germans look like laid back hippies.

Never dealt with Russians. Nobody was confident of the quality of Russian built stuff.

[Syt]

Dealing with Germans in business: 

Anal retentive fucks. 

You've never had to do with the formalities around making money transfers to Russians or Ukrainians, I take it? Both countries are bureaucratic nightmares that make Germans look like laid back hippies.

Never dealt with Russians. Nobody was confident of the quality of Russian built stuff.

Try to remember that next time you take medication that was tested, among others, by Russian doctors.

[Martinus]

Dealing with Germans in business: 

Anal retentive fucks. 

You've never had to do with the formalities around making money transfers to Russians or Ukrainians, I take it? Both countries are bureaucratic nightmares that make Germans look like laid back hippies.

There is a difference. Russians and Ukrainians hide behind bureaucratic rules (which often do not make sense) because they are averse to decision-taking, as the culture dissuades personal responsibility (elderly Poles, especially employed by the state enterprises, still show such qualities too).

Germans stick to the rules because they genuinely believe the sun would not raise on the next morning if they stopped.