What the Internet reveals about sexual desire

[Caliga]

Again, not macho enough. Catullus himself may have been more like Marty or Grallon, but that poem is vintage Siegebreaker.

Well, I threw Marti out there because he tends to react violently when people mock him.  It seems like Seige doesn't get it a lot of the time when he's being mocked.

[DGuller]

Evidently it was considered quite degrading in Roman times.  The Romans really weren't as cool as they're often made out.

Really?  I watched a documentary about Caligula, and it seemed quite widespread.

[Valmy]

Well, I threw Marti out there because he tends to react violently when people mock him.  It seems like Seige doesn't get it a lot of the time when he's being mocked.

But when he does he responds Catullus-like.  Marty has never threatened anybody with forcible sodomy.

[garbon]

Well, I threw Marti out there because he tends to react violently when people mock him.  It seems like Seige doesn't get it a lot of the time when he's being mocked.

But when he does he responds Catullus-like.  Marty has never threatened anybody with forcible sodomy.

He'd have to actually enjoy it first.

[Caliga]

 

[Drakken]

Really?  I watched a documentary about Caligula, and it seemed quite widespread.

Romans didn't fuss over homosexuality,  but they fussed about men playing the bottom like females, which was considered very unmanly. Brothels were widespread and easy to access, they even had ads in the streets.

Claudius was the first Roman Emperor not to have boy or male lovers, and it was used against him by his opponents. That tells you.

[Syt]

Evidently it was considered quite degrading in Roman times.  The Romans really weren't as cool as they're often made out.

Well, if I remember various tv documentaries correctly, Romans considered the mouth kind of sacred and therefore oral sex had something slightly forbidden about it, though I guess it would be similar to today's status of (hetero) anal sex?

[Malthus]

Really?  I watched a documentary about Caligula, and it seemed quite widespread.

Romans didn't fuss over homosexuality,  but they fussed about men playing the bottom like females, which was considered very unmanly. Brothels were widespread and easy to access, they even had ads in the streets.

This is correct - Romans were okay with guys being pitchers, but catchers were looked down on.

Face-fucking was considered particularly humiliating (moreso than a simple blow job) because it was so passive on the part of the catcher.

[MadImmortalMan]

Huh. I had the impression that homosexuality in general was looked down upon as a sort of Greek affectation by the Romans.

[Valmy]

And even if you did feel like breaking all the sexual taboos that did exist you were ok doing it so long as you were discrete.

As in don't be like Elagabalus.

[Malthus]

Huh. I had the impression that homosexuality in general was looked down upon as a sort of Greek affectation by the Romans.

Later in the empire, it started to be proscribed. In general, through most of the republican and imperial period, it was looked at as somewhat licencious by the morally-minded, with ridicule reserved for those older men who liked to take the passive role.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Rome

[Caliga]

Huh. I had the impression that homosexuality in general was looked down upon as a sort of Greek affectation by the Romans.

I seem to recall that there was a class distinction; i.e. the lower classes were less tolerant of homosexuality than the upper classes were.  Which probably correlates well with modern society, when you think about it.

[Syt]

Hm, I should re-watch Caligula again, now that I have a larger tv.

[Caliga]

Later in the empire, it started to be proscribed. In general, through most of the republican and imperial period, it was looked at as somewhat licencious by the morally-minded, with ridicule reserved for those older men who liked to take the passive role.

Well duh, of course it did when the empire became staunchly Christian.

[Caliga]

Hm, I should re-watch Caligula again, now that I have a larger tv.

I like the part when he condemns Gemellus.

"No, Theeeeeeeeeeeeeser.... Nooooooooo....."

What a pussy.