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Started by garbon, May 03, 2011, 09:12:03 AM

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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Razgovory on May 03, 2011, 05:35:24 PM
I dunno, I get the feeling the dominant theme in Japanese porn is Rape.  I find it really creepy.

Well, it's hard to produce shame and lust in an innocent victim without some sort of coerced sex act.

Jacob

#46
Quote from: Ideologue on May 03, 2011, 03:31:34 PMI.e., it's more humiliating or damaging to the white woman's sexuality, and therefore more of a turn-on for weird, damaged people?  I guess that reads.  Or do you mean that the viewer wishes to identify with the largely mythical sexual prowess of the black male?

I think there are some people for whom humiliation matters, and it's more humiliating in their view for a white woman to be fucked by black guy. For others, it's transgression that matters and black on white sex is more transgressive against social norms than sex between people of the same race; white girls aren't "supposed" to fuck black guys so when that happens that makes it hotter.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Jacob on May 03, 2011, 05:44:07 PM
I think there are some people for whom humiliation matters, and it's more humiliating in their view for a white woman to be fucked by black guy. For others, it's transgression that matters and black on white sex is more transgressive against social norms than sex between people of the same race; white girls aren't "supposed" to fuck black guys so when that happens that makes it hotter.

Agreed.  Same basic motivation as with bestiality, incest porn, or women who stick a Pontiac up their ass-porn.  In this genre the women don't have to be compelled; they can do it for pleasure but it's still taboo and deviant.

Ideologue

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Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 03, 2011, 05:01:43 PM
Quote from: dps on May 03, 2011, 04:49:41 PM
This has got to be a cultural thing, not about either sexual arousal or pain.  They often start screaming and crying when a guy unhooks their bra, long before anything has come close to their vaginas.

I think one dominant theme in Nip porn is that the girl is young and innocent and is therefore really, really embarrassed that someone is sticking a toilet plunger up her ass.  What will her friends at school think if they find out!!  To make it even worse she's really enjoying it! 

I've yet to see the snarling femme fatale superslut motif expressed in Nip porn.

No, that's available and perhaps becoming more the standard, unless you're strictly in it for the snarling.  They're usually super-cutesy--that's almost universal, but then again that's pleasant and one of the draws--but I've seen robust, assertive performances, e.g. Mizaki Miyu.  Those are tons better than the shrinking, abused violets that--I do agree--have historically made up Japanese porn or at least been formative in its public perception.

Quote from: RazI dunno, I get the feeling the dominant theme in Japanese porn is Rape.  I find it really creepy.

It's more prevalent in Japanese than American porn.  As noted above, I think Japanese pornography might be becoming more progressive as a whole.  But to know for sure, I'd have to do a study: all I need is grant money and skin grafts.

It'd be nice if it were.  Down with rape; up with whores!
Kinemalogue
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Ed Anger

Now Russian porn,  there is the fake rape.
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Ideologue

The Russian porn I've seen tends to be drunken, verisimilitudinous in its amateur camerawork and use of crappy actual apartments as sets, and orgy-oriented.  They're a good people; though backwards, they have a lot to teach us.
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dps

A lot of the women in Russian porn are just plain homely, though.  Not all of them, but a lot.

Ed Anger

Russian porn:

Skinny stick, skinny stick, OMG IS SHE LEGAL?, skinny stick, old woman, skinny stick.
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Admiral Yi

I like the Russian skinny stick body type.  Sort of similar to the Montreal hottie stripper type I admired so much.

Ideologue

Quote from: Ed Anger on May 03, 2011, 06:46:33 PM
Russian porn:

Skinny stick, skinny stick, OMG IS SHE LEGAL?, skinny stick, old woman, skinny stick.

They have a lot to teach us, indeed. :hmm:
Kinemalogue
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Jacob on May 03, 2011, 05:44:07 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 03, 2011, 03:31:34 PMI.e., it's more humiliating or damaging to the white woman's sexuality, and therefore more of a turn-on for weird, damaged people?  I guess that reads.  Or do you mean that the viewer wishes to identify with the largely mythical sexual prowess of the black male?

I think there are some people for whom humiliation matters, and it's more humiliating in their view for a white woman to be fucked by black guy. For others, it's transgression that matters and black on white sex is more transgressive against social norms than sex between people of the same race; white girls aren't "supposed" to fuck black guys so when that happens that makes it hotter.

And for some people it's a study in contrast and negative space.

Ideologue

Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 03, 2011, 07:04:52 PM
Quote from: Jacob on May 03, 2011, 05:44:07 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 03, 2011, 03:31:34 PMI.e., it's more humiliating or damaging to the white woman's sexuality, and therefore more of a turn-on for weird, damaged people?  I guess that reads.  Or do you mean that the viewer wishes to identify with the largely mythical sexual prowess of the black male?

I think there are some people for whom humiliation matters, and it's more humiliating in their view for a white woman to be fucked by black guy. For others, it's transgression that matters and black on white sex is more transgressive against social norms than sex between people of the same race; white girls aren't "supposed" to fuck black guys so when that happens that makes it hotter.

And for some people it's a study in contrast and negative space.

:lol:
Kinemalogue
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Ed Anger

Quote from: Ideologue on May 03, 2011, 06:48:53 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 03, 2011, 06:46:33 PM
Russian porn:

Skinny stick, skinny stick, OMG IS SHE LEGAL?, skinny stick, old woman, skinny stick.

They have a lot to teach us, indeed. :hmm:

That shit gets old after a while. I want to see some amputee porn sometimes.
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Razgovory

Quote from: Ed Anger on May 03, 2011, 06:46:33 PM
Russian porn:

Skinny stick, skinny stick, OMG IS SHE LEGAL?, skinny stick, old woman, skinny stick.

Some of the girls are quite pretty, but it's best to get a some eastern European chicks with some Western productions.  The French do good at this.  Except they have some weird thing where every scene needs at least two dicks.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Ideologue

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Good God, I just found something out that is horrifying: pornography (of any sort) appears to be illegal in the Ukraine?  Stalin was right.

Quote from: RazgovorySome of the girls are quite pretty, but it's best to get a some eastern European chicks with some Western productions.  The French do good at this.  Except they have some weird thing where every scene needs at least two dicks.

The French did good with Katsuni.  They did poorly in forcing her to change her performing name, for reasons I'm sure make sense to an idiot French judge and Mary Katsumi.  COLONIALISM WORKS.

Edit: I also just learned a new word--irrumation.  That's Latin way for face fuck. :smarty:
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