[Canadian Election Results] Harper vs Iggy vs the 'stache

[katmai]

God damn Canadians fail at being conservative!

[Admiral Yi]

The side of the Conservative movement that advocates for government inteference in those matters has always baffled me.

Calvinism.  We can only go to heaven if everyone in the community is God-fearing.

[crazy canuck]

God damn Canadians fail at being conservative!

Amercian Conservatism would never fly here.  It is just too irrational and would only appeal to a fringe minority.

[crazy canuck]

The side of the Conservative movement that advocates for government inteference in those matters has always baffled me.

Calvinism.  We can only go to heaven if everyone in the community is God-fearing.

I understand its roots.  I just dont understand why otherwise intelligent people still advocate the position.

[katmai]

God damn Canadians fail at being conservative!

Amercian Conservatism would never fly here.  It is just too irrational and would only appeal to a fringe minority.

Ie Neil?

[Admiral Yi]

I understand its roots.  I just dont understand why otherwise intelligent people still advocate the position.

The same reason there's so many shrill people on the left--it's a lot of fun to nag others for their moral failings.

[Jacob]

Basically my take on Harper's Conservatism is that it definitely has a 'social conservative' side, but not really interested in sex.  They want to support families, hard work, self-reliance, and taking responsibility for your actions, but aren't going to get worked up over who sleeps with who or profanity.

That's a kind of social conservatism I can get behind, as long as it's open to go for results where the evidence supports it (i.e. rehabilitation programs that lower recidivism should be funded, because lower recidivism is a good thing).

[Jacob]

And I think that is exactly why Harper has been successful.  He is a true Conservative in the sense that he doesnt believe government should be interfering in private matters - which includes who sleeps with whom and the results of that.

The side of the Conservative movement that advocates for government inteference in those matters has always baffled me.

As long as that stays true, I'll be alright with Harper. Yeah, there'll be bits here and there I'll disagree with, but as long as harsh Social Conservatism remains a hobgoblin for debates rather than a matter of policy, it'll be alright.

[crazy canuck]

God damn Canadians fail at being conservative!

Amercian Conservatism would never fly here.  It is just too irrational and would only appeal to a fringe minority.

Ie Neil?

Exactly.

[Grey Fox]

I got my census form. I'll do the long form just to piss off the Cons.

[Barrister]

I got my census form. I'll do the long form just to piss off the Cons.

That'll show em.

[Jacob]

That'll show em.

[Grey Fox]

I got my census form. I'll do the long form just to piss off the Cons.

That'll show em.

Only other thing would be to make Harper the PM that lost Quebec but I've got to wait 2 years to do that.

[Josephus]

And I think that is exactly why Harper has been successful.  He is a true Conservative in the sense that he doesnt believe government should be interfering in private matters - which includes who sleeps with whom and the results of that.

The side of the Conservative movement that advocates for government inteference in those matters has always baffled me.

As long as that stays true, I'll be alright with Harper. Yeah, there'll be bits here and there I'll disagree with, but as long as harsh Social Conservatism remains a hobgoblin for debates rather than a matter of policy, it'll be alright.

Et Tu Yakob?

[Neil]

God damn Canadians fail at being conservative!

Amercian Conservatism would never fly here.  It is just too irrational and would only appeal to a fringe minority.

Ie Neil?

No.