Mobtown, my Mobtown

[Razgovory]

You did not prove my statement incorrect as committing a Fifth Degree Felony does in fact carry the risk of a year in prison under certain circumstances.

You argue as poorly as you assume; the statement to which you responded with your misunderstanding of how a fifth degree felony is defined was my statement about a specific circumstance, not some circumstance that you can just make up.  I am not interested in, nor do I have the time for, correcting all the things you know are true but which are not (as in your bogus definition of a felony, which applies to Federal law, not applicable here).

I'll take that as an agreement then.

[CountDeMoney]

Boy, it's a good thing CDM is against being able to carry a gun or this girl would have really caused some trouble and been able to defend herself.

Meh, that would be a bad thing.

[Razgovory]

Boy, it's a good thing CDM is against being able to carry a gun or this girl would have really caused some trouble and been able to defend herself.

Meh, that would be a bad thing.

Well, it could have been like New Mexico where they do have a conceal and carry law.  When some crazy guy tried to assassinate the Democratic congresswoman civic minded citizens stopped him with their own firearms.  If it hadn't been a conceal and carry state that Loughner fellow could have caused some  serious damage.

[Ed Anger]

oooo, sarcasm.

[Barrister]

Boy, it's a good thing CDM is against being able to carry a gun or this girl would have really caused some trouble and been able to defend herself.

Meh, that would be a bad thing.

Well, it could have been like New Mexico where they do have a conceal and carry law.  When some crazy guy tried to assassinate the Democratic congresswoman civic minded citizens stopped him with their own firearms.  If it hadn't been a conceal and carry state that Loughner fellow could have caused some  serious damage.

It would have been more amusing if you actually got the name of the state right.

[Razgovory]

Meh.

[CountDeMoney]

Victim of McDonald's beating speaks out
Transgender woman calls attack 'hate crime,' has been afraid to be seen in public

A transgender woman beaten at a Baltimore County McDonald's  spoke out on Saturday, saying that the attack was "definitely a hate crime" and that she's been afraid to go out in public ever since.

"They said, 'That's a dude, that's a dude and she's in the female bathroom,' " said Chrissy Lee Polis, 22, who said she stopped at the Rosedale restaurant to use the restroom. "They spit in my face."

A worker at the restaurant taped Monday's attack and created a graphic video that went viral last week. After the video garnered hundreds of thousands of views on websites, McDonald's issued a statement condemning the incident, and on Saturday the worker who taped the incident was fired.

The video shows two females — one of them a 14-year-old girl — repeatedly kicking and punching Polis in the head as an employee and a patron try to intervene. Others can be heard laughing, and men are seen standing idly by.

Toward the end of the video, one of the suspects lands a punishing blow to the victim's head, and Polis appears to have a seizure. A man's voice tells the women to run because police are coming.

"I knew they were taping me; I told the guy to stop," said Polis, a resident of Baltimore. "They didn't help me. They didn't do nothing for me."

County police confirmed that the attack occurred April 18 in the 6300 block of Kenwood Ave. Police said the 14-year-old girl has been charged as a juvenile, while charges were pending against an 18-year-old woman. Reached Saturday, police officials said the investigation was continuing.

The police report does not provide a motive but quotes one of the suspects saying that the fight was "over using a bathroom."

Polis suffered cuts to her mouth and face, and said she had a seizure. She also acknowledged that she was intoxicated at the time of the assault.

On Saturday she said she continued to suffer from painful bruises.

Polis, who said she had a sex-change operation to become a woman, said this isn't the first time that she's been picked on physically because of her sexual identity. She said she's been subjected to beatings and even sexual assaults.

She said seeing herself all over the Internet and all over the news has been "like walking out of the closet all over again." Polis is concerned that the public attention could trigger more violence — and worries it could hurt her chances of getting a job. "I want to cry, but I need to hold my head up," she said.

Her twin brother, Matty Polis, who also lives in Baltimore, said it's been painful to watch her have to endure these sorts of attacks.

"My sister has gotten this her entire life," Matty Polis said. "Being the way she is, she's always had a hard time."

Polis, who was raised by her grandmother in Dundalk and Essex, graduated from Chesapeake High and hasn't had a job or stable place to stay for the past two years, according to her mother, Angela Thomas.

Polis, who is white, believes race may have also been a factor in her attack— both the assailants were black, according to the police report.

Equality Maryland has called on state Attorney General Douglas F. Gansler to step in and investigate the case as a hate crime.

"As a community we remain horrified that transgender citizens are so vulnerable that they can be brutalized ... for simply walking down the street," said Lisa Polyak, vice president of the board of directors for Equality Maryland. "She was simply trying to use a public accommodation. People should not feel threatened when they exist in public space."

Polyak added, "This is why we need a statewide law that prohibits discrimination on the basis of gender identity and gender expression." The advocacy group has fought repeatedly to have such a law passed by Maryland's General Assembly.

Scott Shellenberger, the state's attorney for Baltimore County, said his office has not yet received the file and has not interviewed the victim because the charges were filed late in the week. He said his office will likely interview the victim in the next week and a half and gather additional evidence to determine if the attack was a hate crime.

"When the case was first presented, none of those facts had been revealed to the police — which is why the charges were the way they were," Shellenberger said. "We can certainly revisit the motive for the attack and determine if we need to make additional charges."

The three-minute video clip was apparently first posted on YouTube, then taken down by administrators who said it violated the site's policies. But it popped back up on other sites and was ultimately linked from the Drudge Report, which gave it top billing for much of the day Friday.

The video begins with two women near a bathroom door kicking and hitting a woman who is lying on the ground.

An employee repeatedly tries to separate them, but the attackers continue to stomp and kick the victim in the head. People yell, "Stop! Stop!" to no avail, though others can be heard laughing. An older woman at one point also attempts to pull the attackers away and is shoved.

About halfway through the clip, the attackers drag Polis by her hair to the front door. That is where the victim is sitting before another blow to the head causes an apparent seizure.

Throughout the attack, a man is filming and does not intervene. But when the victim appears to have a seizure, he yells, "She having a seizure, yo. ... Police on their way. Y'all better get out of here."

The owner of the Rosedale McDonald's announced Saturday afternoon that the employee who taped the beating had been fired.

"My first and foremost concern is with the victim," franchise owner Mitchell McPherson said in a statement, adding that action might be taken against other restaurant workers as well. "I'm as shocked and disturbed by this assault as anyone would be. The behavior displayed in the video is unfathomable and reprehensible."

Polis said she plans to take legal action against the restaurant.

"Anyone in my predicament should not be afraid to walk the streets," Polis said. "They should not have to go into a restaurant and get gawked at and made fun of. They shouldn't be afraid to leave the house. It's just wrong."

[Martinus]

Are blacks in America worse than whites, when it comes to criminal behaviour, or is the equivalent of "urban blacks" found among "rural whites"?

[garbon]

Let's say you delete that and we give you a pass, Mart, because today is easter, m'kay?

[DontSayBanana]

Are blacks in America worse than whites, when it comes to criminal behaviour, or is the equivalent of "urban blacks" found among "rural whites"?

Trash is trash, Marty.  Color's got nothing to do with it.

[Neil]

Or, as is more likely, one of her attackers might be wounded, and some six-year old girl who was going to the counter for an ice cream would be dead.

There's hundreds of examples of the exact opposite happening; meanwhile, you have only speculation on what "might" have happened, without a single shred of evidence.

There are no examples of the exact opposite happening, and my speculation is admissible because of my expert status.  Even grumbler, whose hatred and contempt for the intellectual abilities of others is legendary, admitted my supremacy in this very thread.

Gunplay in public places is dangerous, and forbidding that sort of thing is what makes a people civilized.

[Neil]

Or, as is more likely, one of her attackers might be wounded, and some six-year old girl who was going to the counter for an ice cream would be dead.

I bow to your superior familiarity with transvestites and their weapons skills. 

Yeah, well I've seen Highlander a few times.

[Neil]

Boy, it's a good thing CDM is against being able to carry a gun or this girl would have really caused some trouble and been able to defend herself.

Yeah.  Instead of being beaten a little, the guy would be dead.

Guy?

The thing that they were beating was a guy.

[Neil]

Polis said she plans to take legal action against the restaurant.

Fucking faggots.  Instead of suing the bitches that beat him, who have nothing, let's sue the place whose employee saved your worthless ass.  The lesson is:  Next time you see a gay-bashing, just keep walking or else you'll get sued.

[Martinus]

Are blacks in America worse than whites, when it comes to criminal behaviour, or is the equivalent of "urban blacks" found among "rural whites"?

Trash is trash, Marty.  Color's got nothing to do with it.

CdM's post (as his previous ones) seem to imply this is a race issue. On what basis do you make this statement?