IKEA exploits the American Worker, is racist

[Grey Fox]

I'd like to make 19$/h. Maybe I should move to Sweden.

and pay 50% in taxes...

How much do you think I pay?

[The Brain]

Remember when there were still trace amounts of pioneer spirit in Americans? Me neither.

[Slargos]

Remember when there were still trace amounts of pioneer spirit in Americans? Me neither.

I'm willing to wager grumbler does. 

[Pat]

gGuess slargos means stuff like VAT, property tax and other various taxes. isn't Sweden's VAT really high?

No, just a barely noticeable 25%.

VAT is problematic since it is often regressive and not progressive taxation. But we do have lower rates for a lot of stuff (such as culture, 6%, food is another example, 12% iirc). Most of what I spend is spent on rent, food and books so I don't think I do pay a whole lot in VAT, really.

[KRonn]

Remember when there were still trace amounts of pioneer spirit in Americans? Me neither.

[The Brain]

gGuess slargos means stuff like VAT, property tax and other various taxes. isn't Sweden's VAT really high?

No, just a barely noticeable 25%.

VAT is problematic since it is often regressive and not progressive taxation. But we do have lower rates for a lot of stuff (such as culture, 6%, food is another example, 12% iirc). Most of what I spend is spent on rent, food and books so I don't think I do pay a whole lot in VAT, really.

I don't eat food.

[garbon]

The question is rather why one would choose a system where the majority of people has to work under the conditions you describe.

Presumably I'd have to spend more for products if such were the case. Not really a fan of that.

[Pat]

Advantageous to the highly mobile like you but disadvantageous to the majority.

edit: seems you changed your post - I can understand you like the system if you're one of the comparatively few winners.

[garbon]

One might suspect there's something of a culture clash in effect here, however, which might explain some of the friction. See, in Sweden you're actually expected to work and there's no 3 hour siesta/lunch break or basket ball breaks or whatever you muds like to do when you're not busy pretending to look like you're working. 

I doubt that is it. After all, I'd prefer a system where I was only at work while I was doing work.  Unfortunately, that's now allowed.

[garbon]

Advantageous to the highly mobile like you but disadvantageous to the majority.

Changed my post as I realize it didn't address the issue.

[Ideologue]

People who hate unions hate the free market and freedom of association.  You know who else hated the free market and freedom of association?  The Communist Party of the Soviet Union.

[garbon]

People who hate unions hate the free market and freedom of association.  You know who else hated the free market and freedom of association?  The Communist Party of the Soviet Union.

OK

[Barrister]

People who hate unions hate the free market and freedom of association.  You know who else hated the free market and freedom of association?  The Communist Party of the Soviet Union.

2/10

Please show some effort in your trolls.

[Pat]

He's right though.

[garbon]

He's right though.

Not really.