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Started by Razgovory, April 03, 2011, 10:50:33 PM

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Malthus

Quote from: Martinus on April 13, 2011, 10:07:22 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 13, 2011, 09:49:35 AM
Quote from: Malthus on April 13, 2011, 08:54:02 AM
Quote from: merithyn on April 13, 2011, 08:46:28 AM
I know I'm going to get lynched for this, but so be it.


Not by me.

I was sort of thinking the same, really.

So if your wife stole your money and ran off you would be cheering her on?  Maybe I just cannot get over the whole 'financially screwing your ex' part.  It hits too close to home.

You do realize that the money is just as much Malthus' as is his wife's, right?

If my wife left, she'd be taking a lot more than $500 with her, that's for damn sure.  :lol:

In a divorce, I'd get gored without any doubt.
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

Valmy

Quote from: Malthus on April 13, 2011, 10:26:08 AM
If she is moving out, taking some money from a mutual accout (I don't see how she'd have access to it if it was *not* a mutual account) is hardly unreasonable.

She took $500, which is hardly enough to rent a room for a month.

A married person taking money from a mutual account is not 'stealing'.

He said 'My dad's account'
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HVC

Quote from: Malthus on April 13, 2011, 10:33:10 AM

In a divorce, I'd get gored without any doubt.
Post-Nup :contract:. If she really loved you she'd sign it... or at east that's what you'd use your evil lawyer powers to convince her to believe :P
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Malthus

Quote from: Valmy on April 13, 2011, 10:38:31 AM
Quote from: Malthus on April 13, 2011, 10:26:08 AM
If she is moving out, taking some money from a mutual accout (I don't see how she'd have access to it if it was *not* a mutual account) is hardly unreasonable.

She took $500, which is hardly enough to rent a room for a month.

A married person taking money from a mutual account is not 'stealing'.

He said 'My dad's account'

I assume that Raz is not up on the exact legal banking designation of the account in issue.  ;)

\Most married folks have at least some mutual accounts, and it isn't possible, without actual fraud, for Raz's mom to take money from an account that is not mutual - ergo, the more likely explaination is that it was a mutual account (perhaps one that Raz's Dad put the money into).
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

Malthus

Quote from: HVC on April 13, 2011, 10:38:34 AM
Quote from: Malthus on April 13, 2011, 10:33:10 AM

In a divorce, I'd get gored without any doubt.
Post-Nup :contract:. If she really loved you she'd sign it... or at east that's what you'd use your evil lawyer powers to convince her to believe :P

She would answer with a facial expression, not in words, to any such approach. I'll leave it to your imagination which one.
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

Caliga

Quote from: Malthus on April 13, 2011, 10:42:50 AM
She would answer with a facial expression, not in words, to any such approach. I'll leave it to your imagination which one.
:perv: ?
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Malthus

Quote from: Caliga on April 13, 2011, 10:43:53 AM
Quote from: Malthus on April 13, 2011, 10:42:50 AM
She would answer with a facial expression, not in words, to any such approach. I'll leave it to your imagination which one.
:perv: ?

Not your imagination.  :P
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

Valmy

Quote from: Malthus on April 13, 2011, 10:41:23 AM
I assume that Raz is not up on the exact legal banking designation of the account in issue.  ;)

\Most married folks have at least some mutual accounts, and it isn't possible, without actual fraud, for Raz's mom to take money from an account that is not mutual - ergo, the more likely explaination is that it was a mutual account (perhaps one that Raz's Dad put the money into).

So Raz misrepresented the situation?  Again I can only go by what he said.  If she did not, in fact, take $500.00 from his dad's account (and most couples know how to get into their SOs bank account, I know all of my wife's passwords and so forth), I retract my statement.  But since he specifically said she did I can only go by that.

Even if it was a mutual account Raz seemed to make it clear this was a big breach of trust.
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HVC

Quote from: Malthus on April 13, 2011, 10:42:50 AM

She would answer with a facial expression, not in words, to any such approach. I'll leave it to your imagination which one.
Have i over estimated your evil lawyer powers? :(
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Barrister

Quote from: HVC on April 13, 2011, 10:48:27 AM
Quote from: Malthus on April 13, 2011, 10:42:50 AM

She would answer with a facial expression, not in words, to any such approach. I'll leave it to your imagination which one.
Have i over estimated your evil lawyer powers? :(

Or have you underestimated his wife's evil wifely powers? :contract:
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Malthus

Quote from: Valmy on April 13, 2011, 10:47:56 AM
Quote from: Malthus on April 13, 2011, 10:41:23 AM
I assume that Raz is not up on the exact legal banking designation of the account in issue.  ;)

\Most married folks have at least some mutual accounts, and it isn't possible, without actual fraud, for Raz's mom to take money from an account that is not mutual - ergo, the more likely explaination is that it was a mutual account (perhaps one that Raz's Dad put the money into).

So Raz misrepresented the situation?  Again I can only go by what he said.  If she did not, in fact, take $500.00 from his dad's account (and most couples know how to get into their SOs bank account, I know all of my wife's passwords and so forth), I retract my statement.  But since he specifically said she did I can only go by that.

Well, it isn't exactly a misrepresentation. For example, I have a chequing account where my pay is deposited automatically. My wife has authority over this account as well, but she never uses it, it is just there for emergencies - legally it's a "mutual account" but since it is my pay and only I use it on a daily basis, i'd certainly think of it as "my account".

I'd be pretty surprised and unhappy if she suddenly without telling me took money from that account, but she has every legal right to do it.

If she was to take a few thousand from the account (for her, $500 is pocket change) and leave, that would be pretty upsetting ... but hardly a question of "stealing", since in any divorce she'd be entitled to far, far more than that. Moreover, one can't really leave without some money.
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Caliga

Quote from: Malthus on April 13, 2011, 10:54:26 AM
Well, it isn't exactly a misrepresentation. For example, I have a chequing account where my pay is deposited automatically. My wife has authority over this account as well, but she never uses it, it is just there for emergencies - legally it's a "mutual account" but since it is my pay and only I use it on a daily basis, i'd certainly think of it as "my account".
:yes: Same here.
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Valmy

Quote from: Malthus on April 13, 2011, 10:54:26 AM
I'd be pretty surprised and unhappy if she suddenly without telling me took money from that account, but she has every legal right to do it.

I am sorry just because you have a legal right to do something does not make it right or admirable.  I was not talking about theft as a legal term.  I am talking about taking somebody elses things without their permission in a normal everyday sense.  I am talking about a breach of trust and taking actions that will harm others.  I do not give two shits about what is legal here.  This is about relationships not the courtroom.
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This brings me to this question.

What does filling seperately means in the US?
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Valmy

Quote from: Malthus on April 13, 2011, 10:54:26 AM
If she was to take a few thousand from the account (for her, $500 is pocket change) and leave, that would be pretty upsetting

Thank you.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."