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Started by Josephus, March 22, 2011, 09:27:34 PM

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Grey Fox

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Josephus

So, more importantly, can this happen in October on the federal level?
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Grey Fox

That depends is there anyway that Ontario can vote NDP?
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Neil

Quote from: Josephus on May 06, 2015, 06:37:09 AM
So, more importantly, can this happen in October on the federal level?
Not in Alberta.  Both Wildrose and PC voters vote Conservative federally, and they're 50-55% of the electorate.  That's enough to keep Alberta almost entirely blue.  Moreover, Notley's NDP and the federal NDP are totally different animals.
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Josephus

oh well...would have been nice if Alberta defeated harper.  :P
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Congrats Commie Canadians!

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Quote from: Monoriu on May 06, 2015, 01:43:22 AM
On an individual level, the only meaningful decision is stay or leave. 
stay and fight, or run like a coward? ;)
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viper37

Quote from: Josephus on May 06, 2015, 06:37:09 AM
So, more importantly, can this happen in October on the federal level?
No.  But the NDP might gain a few mor MPs there, since they now have an organization on the ground to help them.  It's possible that many Albertan left wingers chose to stay home in the past, given that they figured it would change nothing.

If I were Harper, I would worry a little.  Not that it is significant in itself, but there are many signs that the NDP is on the rise, everywhere.  Despite opposing ideologies, Mulcair is a much tougher beast than Trudeau the younger.
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Josephus

Then maybe it's the Libs who should worry. An NDP spike, federally, could only makes things easier for Harper like what happened in Quebec last time around. As long as the NDP/Liberals keep switching voters, Harper's laughing.
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Malthus

Quote from: Josephus on May 06, 2015, 08:50:58 AM
Then maybe it's the Libs who should worry. An NDP spike, federally, could only makes things easier for Harper like what happened in Quebec last time around. As long as the NDP/Liberals keep switching voters, Harper's laughing.

If Mulcair raises his public profile and status as a leader, he could draw voters from the conservatives who refuse to vote for Trudeau because he's a nonentity.

Otherwise, I agree - he's likely only to split the left.

As the Alberta case shows, in Canada the left/right divide isn't cast in stone among voters.
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Barrister

So it's snowing hard in Edmonton today.

I can not do anything but take it as an omen. -_-
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Drakken

Quote from: viper37 on May 06, 2015, 08:33:04 AM
stay and fight, or run like a coward? ;)

Or the 'Quebec' choice, stay like a coward.

frunk

Quote from: Barrister on May 06, 2015, 09:39:54 AM
So it's snowing hard in Edmonton today.

I can not do anything but take it as an omen. -_-

I thought you liked snow.

Monoriu

When I arrived in Canada in the mid-90s, I heard a horror story that the previous federal ruling party went from a majority in parliament to 2 seats in a single election.  Ever since then my impression is that party loyalty isn't one of Canadian voters' strong points  :ph34r:

Barrister

Quote from: Monoriu on May 06, 2015, 10:46:36 AM
When I arrived in Canada in the mid-90s, I heard a horror story that the previous federal ruling party went from a majority in parliament to 2 seats in a single election.  Ever since then my impression is that party loyalty isn't one of Canadian voters' strong points  :ph34r:

Generally, Canadians are pretty stable.  Alberta has hjad stable right-wing governments since the great depression.

That's what makes this election such a shocker.
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