[Canada] Canadian Politics Redux

[crazy canuck]

Quebec has been talking about it for 30 years now.  But then, it was just Quebec whining.  Now that they see the truth after everyone else, Canadians suddenly ask for change.

Thats Bullshit.  The Reform party was talking about Senate reform for just as long.  Triple E was one of the reasons I didnt support them.  Another level of Federal government?  - no thanks.

[Malthus]

Agreed.  The worst thing we could do is to give the Senate some power.  Best just to get rid of the damn thing.

I suspect the problem is caused by the fact that the existance of a "senate" is imbedded in the constitution like a tick. Getting rid of it would require some sort of Constitutional amendment, and we all know how well *that* goes. 

[crazy canuck]

Yep.  I heard a news clip this morning in which Trudeau said in the House that the Senate is important to "us" and by "us" he was referring to Quebecers.

I hold out no hope that the Senate will be abolished but I still think that is the correct thing to do.  Absent that we have to live with what we have.  The worst possible solution, in my view, is to give it any legitimacy or power.

[viper37]

Quebec has been talking about it for 30 years now.  But then, it was just Quebec whining.  Now that they see the truth after everyone else, Canadians suddenly ask for change.

Thats Bullshit.  The Reform party was talking about Senate reform for just as long.  Triple E was one of the reasons I didnt support them.  Another level of Federal government?  - no thanks.

Then bring back Meech.  That was a good accord for the provinces, and it limited the Feds power by granting provinces a veto right.

[Jacob]

There is nothing to indicate that Canada needs a senate for anything (other than an old folks' home for elderly political hacks).

Yeah.

[crazy canuck]

Quebec has been talking about it for 30 years now.  But then, it was just Quebec whining.  Now that they see the truth after everyone else, Canadians suddenly ask for change.

Thats Bullshit.  The Reform party was talking about Senate reform for just as long.  Triple E was one of the reasons I didnt support them.  Another level of Federal government?  - no thanks.

Then bring back Meech.

Lol, that is exactly the sort of reason Malthus indicated abolishing the senate would never occur.  Quebec would immediately demand the moon and stars in return for abolition.  No thanks.  Putting up with the Duffys of the world is preferable to that.

[Grey Fox]

Is it, is it really?

[crazy canuck]

Is it, is it really?

Yes, yes it is.

[Jacob]

Towhey has a twitter feed with a few gems on it: https://twitter.com/towhey/

Yawn. Another quiet day off. Too rainy to go to the movies. Can anyone recommend a good video?

The week in review: all in all, gotta be pretty happy with the way we buried the magnet story.

Malthus... what's the magnet story?

[Josephus]

I could tell you...but since you specifically asked Malthus, then I won't. 

[Josephus]

Oh, alright. Just to show I'm really a nice guy:

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/05/14/toronto_mayor_rob_ford_spreads_his_message_with_fridge_magnets.html

[crazy canuck]

I could tell you...but since you specifically asked Malthus, then I won't. 

[viper37]

Quebec has been talking about it for 30 years now.  But then, it was just Quebec whining.  Now that they see the truth after everyone else, Canadians suddenly ask for change.

Thats Bullshit.  The Reform party was talking about Senate reform for just as long.  Triple E was one of the reasons I didnt support them.  Another level of Federal government?  - no thanks.

Then bring back Meech.

Lol, that is exactly the sort of reason Malthus indicated abolishing the senate would never occur.  Quebec would immediately demand the moon and stars in return for abolition.  No thanks.  Putting up with the Duffys of the world is preferable to that.

Distinct society = moon and stars.  Interesting point of view.  Nothing has really changed in Canada since 1990.  Bilinguism is stagnating, french is receding, but all is ok
The rest of the agreement concerns every provinces, so I doubt it's "asking moon and star". Especially since 7 provinces all signed it in the first place.

[crazy canuck]

Meech Lake failed for a reason.  And now you suggest going back to it like nothing happened. 

[Barrister]

Surely you'd go back to Charlottetown, rather than Meech?

And EEE is where it is at people!