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Started by Josephus, March 22, 2011, 09:27:34 PM

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garbon

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crazy canuck

Quote from: garbon on May 02, 2026, 09:10:09 AMForever is a very long time.

I'm not sure the United States is going to last that long
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In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

Grey Fox

I think the moment ICE is disbanded and a Democrat is in the White House, Canadian will flock en masse to the USA.

After, what I think is, a decade of traveling everywhere but the USA, we will crave it.
Getting ready to make IEDs against American Occupation Forces.

"But I didn't vote for him"; they cried.

crazy canuck

#24903
Because this will all be just a bad nightmare and the Americans will be honourable and trusted?

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In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

Valmy

Quote from: Grey Fox on May 02, 2026, 03:08:09 PMI think the moment ICE is disbanded and a Democrat is in the White House, Canadian will flock en masse to the USA.

After, what I think is, a decade of traveling everywhere but the USA, we will crave it.

Sure if we got a Democratic politician in charge that actually did the things Democratic voters want...sure...but that never happens.

But even if we got a Democratic President I wouldn't hold my breath they actually attempt to dramatically change course and fix things. And a Republican would take advantage of the Democrats failing to do that and then make things far worse. This is the established cycle of American decadence.

So let's not start dreaming of the good times just yet.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Grey Fox

Quote from: crazy canuck on May 02, 2026, 03:32:29 PMBecause this will all be just a bad nightmare and the Americans will be honourable and trusted?



No. It's tourism. Cuba is not honourable and trusted and yet millions of us went there.
Getting ready to make IEDs against American Occupation Forces.

"But I didn't vote for him"; they cried.

HVC

In the end it's all about money. If and when the states a get back to normalcy people and businesses will go back. If people can get cheap trips or companies can make money they'll go back. If people can make money off Russia and China why not the US. Whether that's moral or wise is another question, but no one's ever gone broke betting on people's stupidity.
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Hubris must be punished. Severely.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Grey Fox on May 02, 2026, 05:07:43 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 02, 2026, 03:32:29 PMBecause this will all be just a bad nightmare and the Americans will be honourable and trusted?



No. It's tourism. Cuba is not honourable and trusted and yet millions of us went there.

Cuba hasn't threatened to annex us.

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In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

Josephus

Quote from: Valmy on May 02, 2026, 03:59:06 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 02, 2026, 03:08:09 PMI think the moment ICE is disbanded and a Democrat is in the White House, Canadian will flock en masse to the USA.

After, what I think is, a decade of traveling everywhere but the USA, we will crave it.

Sure if we got a Democratic politician in charge that actually did the things Democratic voters want...sure...but that never happens.

But even if we got a Democratic President I wouldn't hold my breath they actually attempt to dramatically change course and fix things. And a Republican would take advantage of the Democrats failing to do that and then make things far worse. This is the established cycle of American decadence.

So let's not start dreaming of the good times just yet.

Yes . As Carney has said this is not a temporary thing, it is a permanent change.
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mongers

on the subject of Carney, this podcast is interesting:

QuoteHow to Spend Billions – Fast: Carney's Defence Deadline
 


The Canadian prime minister, Mark Carney, has given his generals and admirals an unusual command: spend money. Lots of it. Quickly. For years, it was the other way around. Canada wore the uniform of a serious NATO ally – while undershooting the alliance's 2% of GDP defence spending target. Now, spurred by what Carney has called a "rupture" in geopolitics, Ottawa is adding billions to hit NATO's target by 31 March 2026 – the end of the fiscal year.


The Documentary
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

crazy canuck

Our armed forces have been in a procurement paralysis for decades. Some shock treatment is required.
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In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

viper37

Carney should state what 'leverage' Canada has in trade talks, Poilievre says

Option #1: PP is a moron.
Option #2: PP is a useful idiot.
Option #3: PP is actively working for the GOP.
Option #4: All of the above?

I don't know what to think.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

crazy canuck

PP is the guy who said Bitcoin would prevent inflation.

He is a simple man in a Maple MAGA party
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In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

Grey Fox

Quote from: viper37 on May 03, 2026, 01:50:53 PMCarney should state what 'leverage' Canada has in trade talks, Poilievre says

Option #1: PP is a moron.
Option #2: PP is a useful idiot.
Option #3: PP is actively working for the GOP.
Option #4: All of the above?

I don't know what to think.

He's a RoC conservative. They are completely addicted to the USA way of doing things.
Getting ready to make IEDs against American Occupation Forces.

"But I didn't vote for him"; they cried.

Valmy

Quote from: Grey Fox on May 03, 2026, 03:14:05 PM
Quote from: viper37 on May 03, 2026, 01:50:53 PMCarney should state what 'leverage' Canada has in trade talks, Poilievre says

Option #1: PP is a moron.
Option #2: PP is a useful idiot.
Option #3: PP is actively working for the GOP.
Option #4: All of the above?

I don't know what to think.

He's a RoC conservative. They are completely addicted to the USA way of doing things.

Well then I find his criticism of the Liberals running up debts hilarious. Has he seen how many astronomical debts every President, well except Clinton, since 1980 have run up in the United States? We currently owe over 30 trillion dollars.

And he wants Canada to be run just like the USA eh? And he thinks this will mean less debts?
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."