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Started by Josephus, March 22, 2011, 09:27:34 PM

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Bauer

Quote from: Jacob on January 20, 2026, 03:03:33 PMWhat's going on with Poilievre and the Conservatives?

Have they made any statements of substance on... you know, all this... Greenland? NATO? Canada's place in the world?

Secondly - is Poilievre on track to win the impending leadership review?

Doubt he has anything of substance to contribute.  There was a time when I enjoyed PP attack dog shtick when I was really sick of Trudeau, but it's gotten to the point I can't listen to anything he says.

Blah blah blah everything is awful cause of the liberals blah blah blah.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Jacob on January 20, 2026, 03:03:33 PMWhat's going on with Poilievre and the Conservatives?

Have they made any statements of substance on... you know, all this... Greenland? NATO? Canada's place in the world?

Secondly - is Poilievre on track to win the impending leadership review?

The Globe had a good in-depth piece on this last week - the summary of their reporting is Poilievre will likely win, but the issue for him is what is his margin of victory.  Harper won his review by an overwhelming majority (something like 89%) and so he comfortably stayed on as leader. He then went on to win the next three elections. And so a high standard has been set.

They also say the reason we have not heard much from him over the last couple of weeks, is all his energy is currently concentrated on meeting with the delegates to the convention to answer any concerns they might have so as to get a significant margin of support in the vote.  Also, the last thing he needs is to come out with a position that is anti-Trump, remembering that the Conservative party is comprised of about 30% MAGA supporters.  So anything he says now that is construed as anti-Trump could push him below a 70% result at the review.

 
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In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

viper37

Quote from: Zanza on January 20, 2026, 02:41:35 PM
Quote from: viper37 on January 19, 2026, 06:21:10 PMDon't know if BMW, Mercedes or Audi has any auto plant here (we have a resident expert, but not in this thread...).
Not that I am aware of. Suppliers (e.g Magna, Multimatic, lithium mining etc.). What is now Daimler Truck used to have a bus plant in Ontario, Mercedes had a fuel cell JV in Vancouver, but there are no significant own facilities. Wasn't necessary under NAFTA and USMCA. Canada alone is too small of a market for niche manufacturers like the German OEMs to invest in. They all try to convert from a "global" organization with heavy German footprint towards a more balanced local-for-local footprint with distributed RD, procurement, supply chain, production, sales in the three regions China, USA or USMCA, and EMEA/RoW.

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viper37

Quote from: Jacob on January 20, 2026, 03:03:33 PMWhat's going on with Poilievre and the Conservatives?

Have they made any statements of substance on... you know, all this... Greenland? NATO? Canada's place in the world?

Secondly - is Poilievre on track to win the impending leadership review?

Poilièvre congratulated Trump for his raid on Venezuela then went radio silent after he announced the US would be running the country (and subsequently told every US citizen to GTFO).

Later he Tweeted (or Xed?) the polar opposite about Greenland:

QuoteIt is unacceptable for the U.S. to seize the territory of a sovereign country, including by threatening tariffs on other NATO countries. Greenland is part of the Kingdom of Denmark and we support its territorial integrity. Conservatives support NATO and Canada's obligations as a NATO member. Canada should strengthen the NATO alliance and rebuild our own forces in the Arctic to combat threats also coming from China and Russia and to protect our seas, skies and soil.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Legbiter

Quote from: viper37 on January 20, 2026, 06:07:31 PM
Quote from: Jacob on January 20, 2026, 03:03:33 PMWhat's going on with Poilievre and the Conservatives?

Have they made any statements of substance on... you know, all this... Greenland? NATO? Canada's place in the world?

Secondly - is Poilievre on track to win the impending leadership review?

Poilièvre congratulated Trump for his raid on Venezuela then went radio silent after he announced the US would be running the country (and subsequently told every US citizen to GTFO).

Later he Tweeted (or Xed?) the polar opposite about Greenland:

QuoteIt is unacceptable for the U.S. to seize the territory of a sovereign country, including by threatening tariffs on other NATO countries. Greenland is part of the Kingdom of Denmark and we support its territorial integrity. Conservatives support NATO and Canada's obligations as a NATO member. Canada should strengthen the NATO alliance and rebuild our own forces in the Arctic to combat threats also coming from China and Russia and to protect our seas, skies and soil.


Didn't Canada just seriously wargame a scenario where the US invades and how the Canadians would respond militarily?
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Grey Fox

It's a rumor, but yeah. 2 to 7 days before insurrection.
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"But I didn't vote for him"; they cried.

crazy canuck

Awarded 17 Zoupa points

In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

Bauer

I listened to the speech on the drive home today.  It was something - really bold for a Canadian PM.

I'm proud of Carney for saying what needs to be said, and really hope middle powers can indeed make a new world together.

crazy canuck

Awarded 17 Zoupa points

In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

Richard Hakluyt

I think you have got a good PM in difficult times; he is clear-sighted, brave and a man of high intelligence and dignity; I hope that Canadians appreciate that in the hard times ahead.