[Canada] Canadian Politics Redux

[crazy canuck]

Some blame the rise of DEI training within policing. Some blame the "woke" ideology of former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

High quality reporting in that article.

[Razgovory]

Some blame the rise of DEI training within policing. Some blame the "woke" ideology of former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

High quality reporting in that article.

Are either statements false?  Also, this is an opinion piece, not a news report.  You can tell, by the word "Opinion" at the top.

[Syt]

Some blame the rise of DEI training within policing. Some blame the "woke" ideology of former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

High quality reporting in that article.

"Some say it's raining. Some say the sun is shining. Who's to say?"

[crazy canuck]

Point 1, if you hear a claim that starts with "some say". Immediately question the claim.

Point 2, if you hear a claim that includes no explanation for why the claim is valid, ignore it.

Point 3, if you see either of those things occurring in something you are reading online, be immediately suspicious.

Point 4, if you see both occurring, ignore.

[Razgovory]

Have said people said that?  Yes.  The opinion doesn't state that is the reason, simply that some people have made the hypothesis.  You are free to give an alternate theory as to why your countrymen seem to think that parts of Toronto are "infested" with Zionists. Or why "Statistics confirm the extent of the crisis. Though Jews comprise less than 1 percent of Canada's population, we are now the number one target of police-reported hate crimes targeting religion. A comparison of Statistics Canada data against FBI data shows that a Jew in Canada is significantly more likely to be the target of a police-reported hate crime than a Jew in America."

[Valmy]

Have said people said that?  Yes.  The opinion doesn't state that is the reason, simply that some people have made the hypothesis.  You are free to give an alternate theory as to why your countrymen seem to think that parts of Toronto are "infested" with Zionists. Or why "Statistics confirm the extent of the crisis. Though Jews comprise less than 1 percent of Canada's population, we are now the number one target of police-reported hate crimes targeting religion. A comparison of Statistics Canada data against FBI data shows that a Jew in Canada is significantly more likely to be the target of a police-reported hate crime than a Jew in America."

So if we just were more racist in our hiring practices and persecuted minorities more than Jews would be fine? That is the theory?

[HVC]

I contest that article. People in canada hate Indians way more than they hate jews.

[Razgovory]

Have said people said that?  Yes.  The opinion doesn't state that is the reason, simply that some people have made the hypothesis.  You are free to give an alternate theory as to why your countrymen seem to think that parts of Toronto are "infested" with Zionists. Or why "Statistics confirm the extent of the crisis. Though Jews comprise less than 1 percent of Canada's population, we are now the number one target of police-reported hate crimes targeting religion. A comparison of Statistics Canada data against FBI data shows that a Jew in Canada is significantly more likely to be the target of a police-reported hate crime than a Jew in America."

So if we just were more racist in our hiring practices and persecuted minorities more than Jews would be fine? That is the theory?

I don't know what the Canadians could do to hate Jews less.

[Razgovory]

I contest that article. People in canada hate Indians way more than they hate jews.

I don't think "Indians" is a religious group.

[HVC]

I contest that article. People in canada hate Indians way more than they hate jews.

I don't think "Indians" is a religious group.

Fine. They hate Muslim Indians. Which includes Pakistani and Bengalis too, but they just call them Indians.

[Valmy]

Jews are both a religious group and an ethnic group so I don't think comparing them to other ethnic based groups is wrong. Comparing them to Indians seems reasonable.

It is not like not being religious makes one a non-Jew.

[crazy canuck]

I am not going to engage in the Charlie Kirk style of debate, where an outrageous claim is made without any support, and then the person making the claim says, "prove me wrong".

[HVC]

Jews are both a religious group and an ethnic group so I don't think comparing them to other ethnic based groups is wrong. Comparing them to Indians seems reasonable.

It is not like not being religious makes one a non-Jew.

Its just a dishonest way to try to give more emphasis to their point by cherry picking a subcategory that reflects their views . Swedes are the most hated amongst blonde people in canada. OMG stop the canadians from discrimianting against the swedish.

Not to say Jewish people aren't discriminated against, or hated,  of course they are. It just one of many red flags that would lead a reasonable person to disregard the opinion of this author

[Zoupa]

I am not going to engage in the Charlie Kirk style of debate, where an outrageous claim is made without any support, and then the person making the claim says, "prove me wrong".

Exactly. That's why online "debate" against these alt right types is pointless.

To go on a tangent, I think it's why NAFO has been effective in countering russian tactics. We don't argue or counterpoint their ridiculous claim, we use humour and ridicule and it infuriates them. russians/vatniks/tankies/alt-righters all seem to have small dicks or something. They're always unhappy.

[Jacob]

To go on a tangent, I think it's why NAFO has been effective in countering russian tactics. We don't argue or counterpoint their ridiculous claim, we use humour and ridicule and it infuriates them. russians/vatniks/tankies/alt-righters all seem to have small dicks or something. They're always unhappy.

Yup. NAFO type tactics is one of the better ways to counter the current radical right playbook.

• It focuses on getting real things done, so it's not a waste of time and pointless.
• It doesn't take itself seriously, so no one is getting all self-righteous and caught up drinking their own supply.
• It provides a good entertainment product.
• It is highly visible, countering the feeling of being all alone and vulnerable.