[Canada] Canadian Politics Redux

[Grey Fox]

I work for a company that China attacks constantly. No one took it seriously until we were comprised & then you take it very seriously from then on.

[viper37]

If you read the article, even when it was clear they were compromised, with solid proofs, the Nortel executives failed to react.

[Grey Fox]

Yeah, Nortel execs were idiots. So full of self righteousness

[viper37]

Almost makes you turn to socialism.      
Almost.

[crazy canuck]

O'Toole was on the CBC Vancouver radio morning show.  He did not sound like a Conservative.  He talked about the importance of Reconciliation;  the need to address the drug deaths by providing more resources to harm reduction strategies and approaching the issue as an acute health care crisis; and the need to address racism within Canadian institutions including the police and military.

[viper37]

He talked about the importance of Reconciliation;  the need to address the drug deaths by providing more resources to harm reduction strategies and approaching the issue as an acute health care crisis; and the need to address racism within Canadian institutions including the police and military.

Basically, he's a real Conservative.  Not the figure painted by the corrupt and inept Liberal Party of Canada to exploit the fears of Canadians.

[Grey Fox]

He talked about the importance of Reconciliation;  the need to address the drug deaths by providing more resources to harm reduction strategies and approaching the issue as an acute health care crisis; and the need to address racism within Canadian institutions including the police and military.

Basically, he's a real Conservative.  Not the figure painted by the corrupt and inept Liberal Party of Canada to exploit the fears of Canadians.

Are you sure? Those things are liberal points.

[Malthus]

O'Toole was on the CBC Vancouver radio morning show.  He did not sound like a Conservative.  He talked about the importance of Reconciliation;  the need to address the drug deaths by providing more resources to harm reduction strategies and approaching the issue as an acute health care crisis; and the need to address racism within Canadian institutions including the police and military.

I get the definite impression this O'Toole guy is going to be a real challenge for the Liberals, and for Trudeau in particular.

At least so far, he's shown no indications that, as leader, he's going down the Trump route of populist nonsense and baseless attacks on opponents. On the contrary, he looks to be boringly issue-focused. Plus he's expressly not interested in pursuing obsolete social conservative policies - I read an account about how he described anti abortion, for example, as a worthless waste of time for the Cons.

I'm interested to see he supports the CANZUK proposal.

Put that together with the ability, as usual in Canadian politics, to point out that the incumbent has a repeated history of questionable ethics, abs with the NDP apparently mired in pursuing the single issue of racism, you have a competitive election package.

Of course it is early days yet. He could take a turn for the Trumpian. Who knows.

From what I've read, he's got a couple of minuses. His French is supposed to be pretty rudimentary and that will hurt him. He seems weak on environment and global warming. He's not particularly charismatic.

[Grey Fox]

On the Harper scale of French learning, I think he's about 2008 Harper. Better than anything Scheer ever achieved.

[Malthus]

The only problem may be that if the topic of O'Toole can't even get an argument going on Languish, he may simply be too boring to win. 😄

[Grey Fox]

Only Ontario matters anymore, so what's your opinion on the regressive Conservative Party of Canada?

[Malthus]

The NDP leader simply can't help himself - on matters of race, he continually shoots himself in the foot, because facts apparently don't matter to him. This may play well to his base, but it pretty well ensures that he'll be struggling with the Greens for third place, and not with the Liberals or Cons for first place.

The latest example - this whole korchinski-Paquet inquest (the lady that fell off a balcony during an incident involving the cops). The incident was started when the family called the cops, claiming she was fighting with her brother and that knives and broken bottles were involved (this was not true). The cops showed up, separated them battling sibs, took them out of the apartment, then the woman claimed she needed to go back in to pee - but instead she went onto the balcony and barracaded the door. The cops brought a paramedic in to talk her out, but instead she attempted to crawl from one balcony to another, and fell to her death.

The family immediately claimed she had been chucked off the balcony by the cops, which ignited mass protests in Toronto - following the stuff in the US, many were prepared to believe this was another example (the woman is part Ukrainian and part Black in heritage - in fact, she may have been in the same Ukrainian dance group as my son, but another age group). The family also set up a Gofundme account, and got hundreds of thousands of dollars.

An inquiry was quickly set up, found that the cops were completely exonerated: they were not responsible for her death, and certainly had not chucked her off. Indeed, the question was whether they had failed to use *enough* force to extract her when she had gone out on the balcony (the inquiry found that this lack of force was justified).

Despite this finding, which appears fully justified on the facts and not a whitewash from what I've seen, the NDP leader continues to claim the woman "died because of police intervention" and that "she needed help and her life was taken instead" and he trashed the investigation as bringing "...no justice to the family".

This appears to be based on no facts whatsoever ...

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/canada/toronto/article-jagmeet-singh-showed-an-appalling-lack-of-judgment-in-tweet-about/

[viper37]

He talked about the importance of Reconciliation;  the need to address the drug deaths by providing more resources to harm reduction strategies and approaching the issue as an acute health care crisis; and the need to address racism within Canadian institutions including the police and military.

Basically, he's a real Conservative.  Not the figure painted by the corrupt and inept Liberal Party of Canada to exploit the fears of Canadians.

Are you sure? Those things are liberal points.

Liberal points would be to legalize all drugs and distribute them to anyone who ask for it saying it will end the opioid crisis.
Liberals would say that in order for reconciliation to happen, we need to centralize all government decisions in Ottawa and let party contributors decide what is best for the country we live in.

Conservatives acknowledge racism, they disagree that is erected in a system that willfully discriminates against any non white citizen of the country.

[viper37]

Despite this finding, which appears fully justified on the facts and not a whitewash from what I've seen, the NDP leader continues to claim the woman "died because of police intervention" and that "she needed help and her life was taken instead" and he trashed the investigation as bringing "...no justice to the family".

This appears to be based on no facts whatsoever ...

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/canada/toronto/article-jagmeet-singh-showed-an-appalling-lack-of-judgment-in-tweet-about/

like you said, he's playing to his base and they love it.  the left has never shown any interest for science or facts.

In fact, a well known cabinet minister in the Liberal party once said we would have no skiing on the south shore of the St-Lawrence within 10 years, and that was reason enough to stop any development projects involving a ski station in this part of the province.

That was in 2005.

[Grey Fox]

Ending criminalization of drugs is more than just a way to ease the opioid crisis. It is also about erasing 100 years of racism.