[Canada] Canadian Politics Redux

[HVC]

looks like they were strangled. Our very own Canadian Menendez?

[Malthus]

Cops very close mouthed about their deaths so far.

Figure they will show up in an episode of Forensic Files in a few years ...

[HVC]

Cops very close mouthed about their deaths so far.

Figure they will show up in an episode of Forensic Files in a few years ...

Anyone else used to watch exhibit A?

[crazy canuck]

I was reading trade data regarding Canada's trading partners - Malthus it is this months CBA National magazine.

I didn't realize that our trade with the EU, prior to CETA was so significant.  Our trade with the US is 18.57 T and our trade with the EU is 16.39 T.  It will be interesting to see if, with CETA and the problems we are having with the Americans, whether the EU will become our dominant trading partner.

The other surprising fact is that our Trade with China is already at 11.2 T - again without the benefit of a trade deal. 

[crazy canuck]

This thread has suffered with the absence of Viper.

What do you think about the Federal government's decision to restrict student employee funding to those organization who attest that they are not pro-life?

One can easily imagine what Viper would say.

For myself, the Liberals ran on a platform of respecting the Charter.  I am not sure how this decision can be defended as not violating Freedom of Religion since most faith based groups will not be able to make that attestation and so will not have access to the funding.

[Barrister]

This thread has suffered with the absence of Viper.

What do you think about the Federal government's decision to restrict student employee funding to those organization who attest that they are not pro-life?

One can easily imagine what Viper would say.

For myself, the Liberals ran on a platform of respecting the Charter.  I am not sure how this decision can be defended as not violating Freedom of Religion since most faith based groups will not be able to make that attestation and so will not have access to the funding.

Yeah, I think this was a real amateur move by Trudeau.  There was a news story about pro-life groups getting jobs grants, so Trudeau just announces that in order to get a jobs grant your "core mission" can't be against abortion.  Impossible to see this passing Charter scrutiny, both under s. 2(a) (freedom of conscience and religion) and 2(b) (freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression).

[Malthus]

This thread has suffered with the absence of Viper.

What do you think about the Federal government's decision to restrict student employee funding to those organization who attest that they are not pro-life?

One can easily imagine what Viper would say.

For myself, the Liberals ran on a platform of respecting the Charter.  I am not sure how this decision can be defended as not violating Freedom of Religion since most faith based groups will not be able to make that attestation and so will not have access to the funding.

I agree.

While pro-choice myself, the decision strikes me as institutionalizing one side of that debate in a manner that is not in accord with Charter values. It sets a terrible president for future politicization of decision-making to exclude the disfavored ... imaging, for example, a future Conservative government writing funding criteria in such a manner as to specifically exclude Muslims from being eligible.

This sort of requirement for outward statements of adherence to ideological conformity on social issues is spreading - in Ontario, for example, lawyers are now required to adhere to a "Statement of Principles" on social values (which is so vague as to be basically meaningless, but still - one can easily imagine future versions will be more specific). 

https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2017/12/01/law-society-votes-to-keep-requirement-for-lawyers-to-adopt-statement-of-principles-on-diversity.html

[crazy canuck]

A certain author wrote an op ed piece in the Globe on Saturday on a similar theme as well. 

[Malthus]

A certain author wrote an op ed piece in the Globe on Saturday on a similar theme as well. 

Heh I saw! 

And is getting shit for it.

I agreed with her piece.

[PRC]

A certain author wrote an op ed piece in the Globe on Saturday on a similar theme as well. 

Heh I saw! 

And is getting shit for it.

I agreed with her piece.

Her piece was great.  The outrage she is getting over though is so over the top..."her support for the rule of law is a continuation of the white patriarchal cis-heteronormative system of oppression" and "due process is a system that protects the accused and affords no protection to the 'victims'".

[Barrister]

This sort of requirement for outward statements of adherence to ideological conformity on social issues is spreading - in Ontario, for example, lawyers are now required to adhere to a "Statement of Principles" on social values (which is so vague as to be basically meaningless, but still - one can easily imagine future versions will be more specific). 

https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2017/12/01/law-society-votes-to-keep-requirement-for-lawyers-to-adopt-statement-of-principles-on-diversity.html

Yeah, I have seen this as well.  I mean it sounds innocuous enough - who doesn't believe in diversity?  But you can imagine a future where lawyers are disciplined - not for being a practicing Christian or Muslim - but because their actions don't accord with the statement of principles they were required to sign.

People should be judged on what we do, not in what we believe.  God can judge us for the contents of our souls, but governments can not.

[crazy canuck]

This sort of requirement for outward statements of adherence to ideological conformity on social issues is spreading - in Ontario, for example, lawyers are now required to adhere to a "Statement of Principles" on social values (which is so vague as to be basically meaningless, but still - one can easily imagine future versions will be more specific). 

https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2017/12/01/law-society-votes-to-keep-requirement-for-lawyers-to-adopt-statement-of-principles-on-diversity.html

Yeah, I have seen this as well.  I mean it sounds innocuous enough - who doesn't believe in diversity?  But you can imagine a future where lawyers are disciplined - not for being a practicing Christian or Muslim - but because their actions don't accord with the statement of principles they were required to sign.

People should be judged on what we do, not in what we believe.  God can judge us for the contents of our souls, but governments can not.

It will be very interesting to see how the SCC rules on the TWU appeal.  Those issues are all engaged.

[Grey Fox]

Atleast, non-politicians.

[Drakken]

Cops very close mouthed about their deaths so far.

Figure they will show up in an episode of Forensic Files in a few years ...

Anyone else used to watch exhibit A?

I loved Exhibit A. We had it on TV translated in French in Quebec - Pièces à conviction.

Not with Graham Greene unfortunately. It was Jacques Godin doing the narration.

[Valmy]

"due process is a system that protects the accused and affords no protection to the 'victims'".

Jesus Christ people.