[Canada] Canadian Politics Redux

[viper37]

That translation is flawless.

Ça manque un peu d'émotion, on voit que c'est une intelligence artificielle et non un humain, mais c'est épatant!

In formal writing, there is no difference between Québécois French and International French.  It's only when we use our more popular expressions. 

Si tu lis "du coup" dans une phrase, tu parles avec un Français.
Si tu lis "câlissement", tu parles avec un Québécois. 

[Jacob]

That translation is flawless.

Ça manque un peu d'émotion, on voit que c'est une intelligence artificielle et non un humain, mais c'est épatant!

Il est amusant de constater que l'anglais que j'écris n'est pas très formel et qu'il a une certaine personnalité, je pense. L'impression que me donne la traduction française (basée sur mes compétences limitées en français) est qu'elle est plutôt formelle. Il sera donc certainement difficile de transmettre les nuances et la personnalité. Mais c'est quand même sacrément bien.

In formal writing, there is no difference between Québécois French and International French.  It's only when we use our more popular expressions.

Si tu lis "du coup" dans une phrase, tu parles avec un Français.
Si tu lis "câlissement", tu parles avec un Québécois. 

Oui, et c'est exactement le genre de nuances que j'aimerais retrouver dans la traduction. Néanmoins, il est assez étonnant que ce type de conversation soit possible.

[crazy canuck]

The Globe and Mail is now reporting that the motivation for the conservative members question was to create a clip for social media.

It doesn't seem to have damaged her base support as evidenced from the posts BB has made. But it likely gives another reason for other Canadians to have misgivings about the Conservatives.

[Jacob]

The Globe and Mail is now reporting that the motivation for the conservative members question was to create a clip for social media.

It doesn't seem to have damaged her base support as evidenced from the posts BB has made. But it likely gives another reason for other Canadians to have misgivings about the Conservatives.

It wouldn't be surprising if they wanted a story of "unreasonable French liberal jerks" to circulate, I suppose.

My guess is that they figure it may help push up their vote share in crucial Ontario suburbs (or elsewhere) where "uppity Frenchies" could play well with swing voters, while they figure it won't impact their performance in Quebec (because they're writing it off?)

What I find instructive is that this is the period in which Poillievre and the Conservatives are "making themselves known to Canadians" and this is what we get - jumping at terrorism shadows, blaming the media, and French-baiting.

I wonder if they're going to move towards the middle when the election comes? Or is this going to be their messaging throughout on the theory that Canadians want something other than "Liberal light"?

[Admiral Yi]

Zoups, are you pleased with the outpouring of anglo French? 

[Zoupa]

Yes, as it proves my point that translation services at this point in time are close to flawless, meaning that conservative snowflake was just being a douche.

[Zoupa]

You know what?  Politeness actually matters.  A lot.

So who exactly is being the precious snowflake in this scenario?

Donc la prochaine fois qu'un député francophone demandera - en francais - à un député anglophone de s'exprimer en francais, il suffira qu'il fasse sa demande poliment et personne au Canada anglais n'y verra à redire. Bon à savoir!

D'ailleurs, pourrais tu s'il-te-plaît me répondre en francais à partir de maintenant?

*uses google translate*

Point proven.

[Admiral Yi]

Yes, as it proves my point that translation services at this point in time are close to flawless, meaning that conservative snowflake was just being a douche.

I got the impression Hillary was busting out his HS French.  I could be wrong.

[Zoupa]

I think so too, but he was a douche about the whole thing so screw him.

[HVC]

I think so too, but he was a douche about the whole thing so screw him.

[Sheilbh]

The Globe and Mail is now reporting that the motivation for the conservative members question was to create a clip for social media.

It doesn't seem to have damaged her base support as evidenced from the posts BB has made. But it likely gives another reason for other Canadians to have misgivings about the Conservatives.

This was interestingly a big thing with Corbyn.

He wouldn't use PMQs to really ask questions but would often do basically a 30 second speech on, say, austerity being bad and then something like "why won't the PM admit that he/she is wrong?" The whole goal was to get the 30 second clip for social media where they'd get loads of shares and likes. It also played into his style.

But it caused even more unrest on the backbenches because one of the purposes of PMQs is a bit of a rally the troops, even if you're 20 points down putting in a good performance in the chamber. So he'd ignore what they felt were open goals but to do with a story in that week.

I'm not sure. Ultimately parliamentary questions are 99% theatre for consumption by other MPs/parliamentary reporters - so in a way maybe it's a good thing to aim for shareable content to try and communicate beyond that?

Although in this specific case I feel like as a general rule, out of courtesy, you should reply in the language you're questioned. But shouldn't be told which language to use. So I think I'm with Zoups.

[Barrister]

Although in this specific case I feel like as a general rule, out of courtesy, you should reply in the language you're questioned. But shouldn't be told which language to use. So I think I'm with Zoups.

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/justin-trudeau-apologizes-to-quebec-anglophones-for-answering-english-questions-in-french

Canada is a bilingual country, and as such, I recognize that I should have answered questions in the language they were asked, be it in Quebec or anywhere else in Canada

(Just so I'm not accused of tricking anyone - this story is from 2017 but the quote is real)

[garbon]

Although in this specific case I feel like as a general rule, out of courtesy, you should reply in the language you're questioned. But shouldn't be told which language to use. So I think I'm with Zoups.

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/justin-trudeau-apologizes-to-quebec-anglophones-for-answering-english-questions-in-french

Canada is a bilingual country, and as such, I recognize that I should have answered questions in the language they were asked, be it in Quebec or anywhere else in Canada

(Just so I'm not accused of tricking anyone - this story is from 2017 but the quote is real)

I'm unclear on your aim here. Is Languish full with Trudeau supporters?

[viper37]

I think so too, but he was a douche about the whole thing so screw him.

Moving to the left coast hasn't suited you.  You should have stayed with us.

[crazy canuck]

BC politics - the Conservatives have built on their lead over the old right wing coalition party now known as United.

Pundits are scratching their heads trying to figure it out.  The Conservatives have had no shot in any elections for decades.  The coalition party and the NDP have been the only viable alternatives here for decades.

One possibility is that the days of coalition parties in Canadian politics have become less viable as the middle ground evaporates.