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Started by Eddie Teach, March 06, 2011, 09:29:27 AM

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Malthus

Quote from: viper37 on January 24, 2016, 12:33:51 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 24, 2016, 02:12:01 AM
[spoiler]
1) Leo bounces up from his death bed kind of easily. 
2) Soldiers from the War of 1812 are killing natives
3) and French voyageurs are competing for pelts in the northern Rockies??  [/spoiler]

I'm glad I saw it, but it's not no Danish 6/6.
haven't seen the movie, but #1 is about how it happens.  #2 is accurate, #3, depends on what you mean.
[spoiler]Do you mean people loyal to the French crown engaging in fur trading activities for their King in 1823?  Unlikely.  If you mean French speaking people engaging in fur trading activities in the rockies, then it's highly possible.  New France extended up to the rockies, there were a few fur trading posts, taken over by the British eventually, and some French trappers/traders lived with the indians or close to them.  Manitoba had some French settlements.  Quebec was the biggest part of New France, not the only one.  [/spoiler]

Apparently, the French have been erased from the history of the US, to the point where actually including them looks unrealistic.  :P
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Josephus

Quote from: celedhring on January 25, 2016, 09:22:04 AM
Spoiler-less impressions on the new X-Files? It's coming out tomorrow here in Spain.

I did use spoiler tags
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celedhring

Quote from: Josephus on January 25, 2016, 10:45:15 AM
Quote from: celedhring on January 25, 2016, 09:22:04 AM
Spoiler-less impressions on the new X-Files? It's coming out tomorrow here in Spain.

I did use spoiler tags

I know, I just wanted to know your impressions without having to read the spoilers.

The Larch

Quote from: Valmy on January 25, 2016, 09:20:06 AM
Quote from: The Larch on January 24, 2016, 06:50:55 PM
I read somewhere these days that it is being rumoured that part of the explanation for the delay is that they had to order an overall rewrite to give more protagonism to Rey, because they hadn't anticipated how much of a hit she'd be. I find it a bit hard to believe.

Yeah next thing you know they will have to re-write it to make Kylo Ren the bad guy :lol:

The other funny thing that the article mentioned was that they were expecting Kylo Ren to be much more of a hit, and that there are apparently tons of merchandise for the character that has gone unsold.

celedhring

Quote from: The Larch on January 25, 2016, 11:14:47 AM
Quote from: Valmy on January 25, 2016, 09:20:06 AM
Quote from: The Larch on January 24, 2016, 06:50:55 PM
I read somewhere these days that it is being rumoured that part of the explanation for the delay is that they had to order an overall rewrite to give more protagonism to Rey, because they hadn't anticipated how much of a hit she'd be. I find it a bit hard to believe.

Yeah next thing you know they will have to re-write it to make Kylo Ren the bad guy :lol:

The other funny thing that the article mentioned was that they were expecting Kylo Ren to be much more of a hit, and that there are apparently tons of merchandise for the character that has gone unsold.

That I can believe. I like the character but he isn't the kind of "cool" villain that will move lots of merch. But again, the movie is pretty much written to show the character in that light.

Syt

Re-write can also mean that there's fan theories that were too close to the script so they try to up the surprise a bit. Or they liked some fan service (thinking of the TRAITOR! stormtrooper) that they're injecting.
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The Larch

Also they'd have to include Oscar Isaac's character, given that he was supposed to die in the 1st movie.

celedhring

All in all, rewriting a script after there's feedback from a prior installment in a film series is pretty common. I'm surprised they didn't actually plan for it in their production schedule.

Gups

Quote from: Malthus on January 25, 2016, 10:04:12 AM
Quote from: Gups on January 25, 2016, 07:33:51 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 24, 2016, 02:12:01 AM
So, The Revenant.

[spoiler]First the positives.  The bear fight scene is totally fucking badass.  It honest to God looks like that bear is beating the living shit out of poor Leo.  The timing and suspense on the action scenes is perfect.  I'm thinking of the opening attack on the camp scene in particular.  The scenery is breathtaking.  The avalanche is awesome.

The negatives.  Leo bounces up from his death bed kind of easily.  Soldiers from the War of 1812 are killing natives and French voyageurs are competing for pelts in the northern Rockies??  [/spoiler]

I'm glad I saw it, but it's not no Danish 6/6.

This is a pretty fair assessment I reckon.

[spoiler]I kind of assumed that it was set somewhere on the Canadian/America border but on checking afterwards apparently North Dakota. I agree that the frog presence makes no sense. I found it quite hard to understand the dialogue in the first half hour or so. Tom Hardy especially mumble. The scenery was just incredible and beautifully shot. [/spoiler]

I haven't seen the movie, but if it depicts Frogs in North Dakota, it's not inaccurate for that reason.

http://www.ndhorizons.com/featured/index.asp?ID=54

QuoteFrench explorer Pierre La Verendrye first came to North Dakota in the 1730s, staying with the Mandan people. Others followed a generation later as European exploration and trade moved west and the region's active fur trade began in the late 1700s.

"The fur trade and the descendents of the fur trade were in large part French and American Indian people," says Virgil Benoit, a French professor at the University of North Dakota. "It established the Michif culture," he adds, noting the Michif and Métis cultures descend mainly from the mixing of the French-Canadian, British, Scottish, American Indian and Canadian First Nations.

The fur trade established communities along the state's northern border from Pembina to Bottineau. "French was the major language of the fur trade," says Benoit. As the Métis presence grew during the 1800s, the activities of the French began to shift to agriculture. "Transitional communities" formed towns including Neche, Olga and Rolette. The largest concentration of Métis resided in the community of Saint Joseph, now Walhalla, between 1840 and 1870.

Had no idea, thanks.

Josephus

Quote from: celedhring on January 25, 2016, 10:51:57 AM
Quote from: Josephus on January 25, 2016, 10:45:15 AM
Quote from: celedhring on January 25, 2016, 09:22:04 AM
Spoiler-less impressions on the new X-Files? It's coming out tomorrow here in Spain.

I did use spoiler tags

I know, I just wanted to know your impressions without having to read the spoilers.

Oh...yeah, what others said. Re visiting old ground. Nothing especially new. Apparently, though, the stand-alone episodes coming up are supposed to be a lot better.
Civis Romanus Sum<br /><br />"My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world." Jack Layton 1950-2011

PDH

Of course the French were in the Rockies.  How do you think La Ramie got its name?  Also, why all the Poudre site names?  Also, we still eat french fries here.
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garbon

Quote from: PDH on January 25, 2016, 02:00:12 PM
Also, we still eat french fries here.

Why do you hate freedom? :(
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Gups on January 25, 2016, 07:33:51 AM
[spoiler]I found it quite hard to understand the dialogue in the first half hour or so. Tom Hardy especially mumble.[/spoiler]

Moi aussi.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: PDH on January 25, 2016, 02:00:12 PM
Of course the French were in the Rockies.  How do you think La Ramie got its name?  Also, why all the Poudre site names?  Also, we still eat french fries here.

The odd thing to me was not the existence of French, but the fact that they were trading muskets and ammunition for pelts, at a time when they lived in a British colony, and after Britain had signed a treaty with the US to no longer supply arms to Indians within US territory.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Razgovory on January 25, 2016, 10:07:01 AM
Everyone looks old.

Red especially looked very old in the commercial I saw.