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Started by Eddie Teach, March 06, 2011, 09:29:27 AM

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Eddie Teach

So wait, suburbs = ghetto in France?  :huh:
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The Larch

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 23, 2012, 06:37:06 AM
So wait, suburbs = ghetto in France?  :huh:

Never heard about the banlieus? It's where the burn down cars as national sport. It's more like US projects or UK council estates, areas of public housing for low income families.

A suburb as an affluent neighbourhood is only so in US speak, I think.

Sheilbh

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 23, 2012, 06:37:06 AM
So wait, suburbs = ghetto in France?  :huh:
Yep.  The banlieues.

DdB, no doubt it's very funny in parts but that poster and the DVD disc made it look like it was the Breakfast Club.

You got that about them being wannabes from the conversation I think some of the characters have about whether they've even been into whichever Arrondisement :lol:
Let's bomb Russia!

Duque de Bragança

Quote from: Sheilbh on February 23, 2012, 06:50:45 AM

Yep.  The banlieues.

DdB, no doubt it's very funny in parts but that poster and the DVD disc made it look like it was the Breakfast Club.

You got that about them being wannabes from the conversation I think some of the characters have about whether they've even been into whichever Arrondisement :lol:

Well, the Breakfast Club isn't really a comedy either.
If I remember correctly they have not travelled more than 3-4 of metro stations than their neighborhood (so 2 km at most).  :D

O Galego & others

There are some very affluents suburbs actually (Neuilly sur Seine, Versailles, Sceaux) or even very wide variation in the same suburban area (low rises vs high rises) even in the dreadful Seine Saint-Denis.

The Larch

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on February 23, 2012, 07:15:33 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on February 23, 2012, 06:50:45 AM

Yep.  The banlieues.

DdB, no doubt it's very funny in parts but that poster and the DVD disc made it look like it was the Breakfast Club.

You got that about them being wannabes from the conversation I think some of the characters have about whether they've even been into whichever Arrondisement :lol:

Well, the Breakfast Club isn't really a comedy either.
If I remember correctly they have not travelled more than 3-4 of metro stations than their neighborhood (so 2 km at most).  :D

O Galego & others

There are some very affluents suburbs actually (Neuilly sur Seine, Versailles, Sceaux) or even very wide variation in the same suburban area (low rises vs high rises) even in the dreadful Seine Saint-Denis.

But those affluent suburbs wouldn't be called banlieus, right? What about La Haine? is that a more faithful image of them?

Sheilbh

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on February 23, 2012, 07:15:33 AM
There are some very affluents suburbs actually (Neuilly sur Seine, Versailles, Sceaux) or even very wide variation in the same suburban area (low rises vs high rises) even in the dreadful Seine Saint-Denis.
I'm shocked, shocked that the place Sarkozy was mayor of is affluent :o
Let's bomb Russia!

Duque de Bragança

Quote from: The Larch on February 23, 2012, 07:25:15 AM
But those affluent suburbs wouldn't be called banlieus, right? What about La Haine? is that a more faithful image of them?

Technically, they are, so calling one of those suburban bourgeois a banlieusard is a common Parisian joke.

But yes, banlieue has negative connotations nowadays. You can say "je travaille en banlieue" (I work in the suburbs) as opposed "je travaille en centre-ville" (same thing but in the city centre) or speak of commuters as "banlieusards" (living in the suburbs working downtown). Some people use "banlieusards" as suburban scum though.

La Haine is different though the vision of skinheads vs minorities in the suburbs was already outdated in the '90s. In the '80s no disagreement though. It has aged but not as badly as I thought. The French spoken in La Haine is not bad enough to sound realistic nowadays unlike L'Esquive which I referred earlier.

As long you don't see Banlieue 13 as a new la Haine as some US cinephiles did according to an US acquaintance of mine in Paris, that's fine.

Duque de Bragança

Quote from: Sheilbh on February 23, 2012, 07:29:06 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on February 23, 2012, 07:15:33 AM
There are some very affluents suburbs actually (Neuilly sur Seine, Versailles, Sceaux) or even very wide variation in the same suburban area (low rises vs high rises) even in the dreadful Seine Saint-Denis.
I'm shocked, shocked that the place Sarkozy was mayor of is affluent :o

The most affluent of France actually but I'll always have Paris over it :D
On the other hand, François Hollande went to the same posh high school in the same suburb ;)

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Sheilbh on February 23, 2012, 06:50:45 AM
DdB, no doubt it's very funny in parts but that poster and the DVD disc made it look like it was the Breakfast Club.

lol, that's funny.

Sorta like how Slumdog Millionaire made it looks so adorable to wallow in your own piss and feces in the Ganges.

The Larch

Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 23, 2012, 07:47:28 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on February 23, 2012, 06:50:45 AM
DdB, no doubt it's very funny in parts but that poster and the DVD disc made it look like it was the Breakfast Club.

lol, that's funny.

Sorta like how Slumdog Millionaire made it looks so adorable to wallow in your own piss and feces in the Ganges.

As long as it has upbeat musical numbers and sexy brown ladies in saris...  :lol:

Darth Wagtaros

Exosquad did the bridge eating people thing better.
PDH!

Sheilbh

Quote from: The Larch on February 23, 2012, 07:51:45 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 23, 2012, 07:47:28 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on February 23, 2012, 06:50:45 AM
DdB, no doubt it's very funny in parts but that poster and the DVD disc made it look like it was the Breakfast Club.

lol, that's funny.

Sorta like how Slumdog Millionaire made it looks so adorable to wallow in your own piss and feces in the Ganges.

As long as it has upbeat musical numbers and sexy brown ladies in saris...  :lol:
Jai ho!
Let's bomb Russia!

Ideologue

Quote from: Sheilbh on February 23, 2012, 07:29:06 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on February 23, 2012, 07:15:33 AM
There are some very affluents suburbs actually (Neuilly sur Seine, Versailles, Sceaux) or even very wide variation in the same suburban area (low rises vs high rises) even in the dreadful Seine Saint-Denis.
I'm shocked, shocked that the place Sarkozy was mayor of is affluent :o

I'm shocked that a Hungarian was affluent.  I guess you save up a lot of money when you only bittorrent movies and games.
Kinemalogue
Current reviews: The 'Burbs (9/10); Gremlins 2: The New Batch (9/10); John Wick: Chapter 2 (9/10); A Cure For Wellness (4/10)

Ideologue

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on February 23, 2012, 07:51:52 AM
Exosquad did the bridge eating people thing better.

I didn't like how they pussied out with Duke "going into a coma."  Transformers killed Prime in the first ten minutes.  G.I. Joe just put Duke in the hospital.  To sufficiently up the ante, Serpentor should have sodomized him with that snake or something.
Kinemalogue
Current reviews: The 'Burbs (9/10); Gremlins 2: The New Batch (9/10); John Wick: Chapter 2 (9/10); A Cure For Wellness (4/10)

Darth Wagtaros

Exosquad wasted main characters throughout the war.
PDH!