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Started by Eddie Teach, March 06, 2011, 09:29:27 AM

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celedhring

So, Pam & Tommy. The show is way better than I expected (I expected little, though, might because of Seth Rogen), but still feels like a bit of an uncomfortable watch. Neither Anderson or Lee signed off on this, and yet half the show is purporting to show us their private life and intimacy (which is obviously made up, besides the "public domain" bits like the circumstances of their marriage and other stuff). Add to it that by all accounts Anderson didn't want the issue to be brought to screen. Yes, the show is pretty sympathetic towards her, but dunno how I feel about this.


Josquius

Gogglebox showed a bit of that, with the talking penis. It seems a perfect flop. Who is it meant to appeal to? Not sure whether I'll ever give it a watch.

Quote from: celedhring on February 21, 2022, 05:14:44 AM
Quote from: Tyr on February 21, 2022, 05:12:46 AM
Completely failed to notice that.
Never did finish watching the final series of daredevil and punisher. Iron fist killed it.

They were both good. You should watch Daredevil's at least. I loved Punisher too, but it had its faults.

I tried daredevil s3. Lost it halfway through as I just couldnt keep my attention in it
Punisher s2 lost it an ep or 2 in.
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The Larch

Quote from: celedhring on February 21, 2022, 08:42:09 AM
So, Pam & Tommy. The show is way better than I expected (I expected little, though, might because of Seth Rogen), but still feels like a bit of an uncomfortable watch. Neither Anderson or Lee signed off on this, and yet half the show is purporting to show us their private life and intimacy (which is obviously made up, besides the "public domain" bits like the circumstances of their marriage and other stuff). Add to it that by all accounts Anderson didn't want the issue to be brought to screen. Yes, the show is pretty sympathetic towards her, but dunno how I feel about this.

What amazes me of that show is that Lily James can portray both a British high society lady in Downton Abbey or Cinderella in the live-action version, and then convincingly play Pamela Anderson. That's some serious range.

celedhring

Quote from: Tyr on February 21, 2022, 08:47:41 AM
Gogglebox showed a bit of that, with the talking penis. It seems a perfect flop. Who is it meant to appeal to? Not sure whether I'll ever give it a watch.

The show starts as a trashy broad comedy, and then transitions to something darker as it shows the personal ordeal Anderson went through. To be frank I think on that regard the show is well thought out. Essentially it's telling you "hey, we all thought this was funny/sexy when it happened but a woman got hurt".

It just feels weird to do it without the victim's collaboration or even consent - the Impeachment show (which I thought it was not as good as this one) had Lewinsky as Exec Producer.

celedhring

Quote from: The Larch on February 21, 2022, 08:58:08 AM
Quote from: celedhring on February 21, 2022, 08:42:09 AM
So, Pam & Tommy. The show is way better than I expected (I expected little, though, might because of Seth Rogen), but still feels like a bit of an uncomfortable watch. Neither Anderson or Lee signed off on this, and yet half the show is purporting to show us their private life and intimacy (which is obviously made up, besides the "public domain" bits like the circumstances of their marriage and other stuff). Add to it that by all accounts Anderson didn't want the issue to be brought to screen. Yes, the show is pretty sympathetic towards her, but dunno how I feel about this.

What amazes me of that show is that Lily James can portray both a British high society lady in Downton Abbey or Cinderella in the live-action version, and then convincingly play Pamela Anderson. That's some serious range.

Oh, she's amazing in this. I've always wondered why she isn't a bigger name? Every time I see her in anything she's absolutely on point.

Sheilbh

Quote from: celedhring on February 21, 2022, 08:59:28 AM
The show starts as a trashy broad comedy, and then transitions to something darker as it shows the personal ordeal Anderson went through. To be frank I think on that regard the show is well thought out. Essentially it's telling you "hey, we all thought this was funny/sexy when it happened but a woman got hurt".

It just feels weird to do it without the victim's collaboration or even consent - the Impeachment show (which I thought it was not as good as this one) had Lewinsky as Exec Producer.
Yeah it's "you were wrong about" made into a series.

I don't know how I feel about it to be honest for the reasons you give but also if it is still an interesting story with a good angle, which from everything I've read it is, I'm not sure that it shouldn't go ahead.
Let's bomb Russia!

celedhring

Quote from: Sheilbh on February 21, 2022, 09:02:09 AM
Quote from: celedhring on February 21, 2022, 08:59:28 AM
The show starts as a trashy broad comedy, and then transitions to something darker as it shows the personal ordeal Anderson went through. To be frank I think on that regard the show is well thought out. Essentially it's telling you "hey, we all thought this was funny/sexy when it happened but a woman got hurt".

It just feels weird to do it without the victim's collaboration or even consent - the Impeachment show (which I thought it was not as good as this one) had Lewinsky as Exec Producer.
Yeah it's "you were wrong about" made into a series.

I don't know how I feel about it to be honest for the reasons you give but also if it is still an interesting story with a good angle, which from everything I've read it is, I'm not sure that it shouldn't go ahead.

Yeah, this would be much easier if the show was trash - it's not. But at the same time it seems to be committing the same sin ("Pamela Anderson has no control over what others can see of her") it's dennouncing.

Again, I'm in the "dunno what to feel" camp, not the "this shouldn't have been done" camp.

Syt

Been thinking a fair bit about BoJack Horseman the last couple of days. I find it fascinating that while the setting and events are satire/parody of our world and more often than not well over the top to the point of surrealism, the emotional lives of the main characters and their relationships are very grounded and "feel" true.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
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mongers

'Argo' - entertaining lightweight 'feelgood' thriller with amusing turns by Alan Arkin and John Goodman.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

grumbler

Quote from: mongers on February 23, 2022, 09:46:26 PM
'Argo' - entertaining lightweight 'feelgood' thriller with amusing turns by Alan Arkin and John Goodman.

An interesting bit of trivia: the script for the fake movie Argo was actually the script for the real (but never-made) film adaptation of Roger Zelazny's classic Lord of Light (which I highly recommend).  Amazingly, the book still has not been filmed.  But there was enough money to make 5 Twilight movies for over $1.2 billion, none of which got even a 50% rating on RT.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

frunk

Quote from: Syt on February 23, 2022, 12:32:47 PM
Been thinking a fair bit about BoJack Horseman the last couple of days. I find it fascinating that while the setting and events are satire/parody of our world and more often than not well over the top to the point of surrealism, the emotional lives of the main characters and their relationships are very grounded and "feel" true.

I think the key to that is Bojack being almost the only one who reacts to the surrealism as being unusual.  All the other characters persist in accepting the weirdness as being a natural part of the world.  Even characters that would normally be considered the normal types in terms of trying to minimize the chaos embrace thoroughly insane premises.  I mean Princess Carolyn, probably the most grounded character in the show, dates [spoiler]Vincent Adultman for most of a season and no one even looks askance except Bojack.  The fact that it never pays off in terms of a reveal is just such an incredible choice. [/spoiler]

Admiral Yi

The Power of the Dog sure does move slow.

Syt

Quote from: frunk on February 23, 2022, 10:27:54 PM
Quote from: Syt on February 23, 2022, 12:32:47 PM
Been thinking a fair bit about BoJack Horseman the last couple of days. I find it fascinating that while the setting and events are satire/parody of our world and more often than not well over the top to the point of surrealism, the emotional lives of the main characters and their relationships are very grounded and "feel" true.

I think the key to that is Bojack being almost the only one who reacts to the surrealism as being unusual.  All the other characters persist in accepting the weirdness as being a natural part of the world.  Even characters that would normally be considered the normal types in terms of trying to minimize the chaos embrace thoroughly insane premises.  I mean Princess Carolyn, probably the most grounded character in the show, dates [spoiler]Vincent Adultman for most of a season and no one even looks askance except Bojack.  The fact that it never pays off in terms of a reveal is just such an incredible choice. [/spoiler]

That's a very good point. I'd add that Diane also sees through the absurdity most of the time. Which makes it fitting that the show is essentially chronicling their relationship, from when they first meet in Ep. 1 to their final parting scene in the end.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

frunk

Quote from: Syt on February 24, 2022, 12:32:55 AM

That's a very good point. I'd add that Diane also sees through the absurdity most of the time. Which makes it fitting that the show is essentially chronicling their relationship, from when they first meet in Ep. 1 to their final parting scene in the end.

That's true.  Not being the asshole that Bojack is, she tends not to make it an issue as much though.

Admiral Yi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHpZ-364m8I

I was checking out this clip for Old School cuz the chick looked very cute and then I saw that the wedding singer is the same one as in The Hangover.