TV/Movies Megathread

[merithyn]

I absolutely love how many Hollywood stars are coming out as gamers and nerds. I do wish more women were doing the same. Regardless, it's fun to see.

[Sheilbh]

I doubt it'll be everyone's cup of tea, but just watched the trailer for Baz Luhrmann's Elvis biopic and I am keen

Also I think Elvis is one of those figures culturally who are so important and influential that they end up being actually underrated (I normally think about this in terms of footballers but it applies here too).

[Syt]

Btw, here's Henry Cavill talking about Warhammer: https://youtu.be/g0Lrr2uS6t8

[Syt]

I just re-watched the series, and I think Season 4 might be the best one.  There are standout episodes every season, but that one had the bulk of the Sugarman/Horseman backstory, Ruthie, the Governor's race, Todd's episode, the Underground episode, introduction of Hollyhock, it's just jam packed.

In Season 6 I had forgotten [spoiler]how dark it gets at the end, although it does feel like a fitting capper for the standard arc of "up and down over the season, serious downbeat on the next to last episode then a bit of a correction at the end."[/spoiler]

Well, I've finished BoJack Horseman.

I expected the ending to be darker than it was. It was a wild ride, and I thought it was a great journey.

The end of season 3 was definitely the emotional nadir (in good storytelling tradition ), and the last three seasons very much deal with the aftermath of "everything so far", let's say without too much detail. But I also felt it started to sag or drag occasionally in seasons 4 and onward. I liked the concept of Paget Brewster's and Max Greenfield's characters in the last season ([spoiler]combining the investigative journalist in Citizen Kane with 30s/40s screwball energy[/spoiler]), but it started to grate on me REALLY fast.

That said I liked that it gave its expansive cast proper send offs and tied up the mains' stories for now (with notable exceptions of [spoiler]Hollyhock and to lesser extent Gina who is still suffering from her trauma, and Penny and Charlotte in New Mexico[/spoiler]). I think it deserves the praise it gets. But I'm not sure if I'd agree with its penultimate episode having the same rating on IMDB as Breaking Bad's Ozymandias.


I felt that tonally it was very similar to F is for Family (except the latter being set in the rustbelt in 1973/74, and being about a working class family) in mixing the very serious and heavy with the absurd.

I'm really going to miss Todd and Diane, though; they were by far my favorite characters. Todd with his naivety leading his charmed, magical life (kind of like Forrest Gump), and Diane, because ... yeah, some of her personal struggles and character traits hit pretty close to home.

Tamas said its "the ultimate navel-gazing self-pity show." I agree with the first part - but if done well, I think there's value in that. A lot of good fiction is character study, and BJH gives a lot of room to examine and dissect its characters, where they came from, and what made them. Some of that breaks rather creatively with the usual presentation of the show (like [spoiler]Diane dealing with her depression, or Princess Carolyn trying to adjust having a baby in her life[/spoiler]). Granted, this introspection is heavily contrasted with the absurdity of the show's worlds and events; then again I feel the absurdity is making a point about life in general.

I would qualify the self pity part. Yes, there's a lot of self-pitying in the show, but my take-away is that in the end it's not glorified, but rather presented as an unproductive dead end and possibly destructive for yourself and others.

[Syt]

P.S.: The episode "Surprise!" is one of the funniest episodes of anything I've ever watched. ([spoiler]The one where Todd wants to throw a surprise wedding for Mr PB and Pickles, but the two have a relationship crisis which leads to wacky "hiding in plain sight" hijinks for the entire episode. Also, the streamer/influencer stuff was an amazing touch.[/spoiler])

[Malthus]

Heh, for me Pickles was the character arc that dragged - though I do think the series was awesome as a whole!

My favorite arc by far was that which dealt with Beatrice.

[spoiler] the episode "Time's Arrow", dealing with flashbacks and her growing dementia, was some of the best animated storytelling I've seen; and "Free Churro", where Bojack delivers her eulogy, was a real tour de force - with the reveal at the end (that he was at the wrong funeral) I thought was a great way to inject a mood swing humour into it). [/spoiler]

[Syt]

Yes, the Pickles stuff was a bit of a drag. I understand that they wanted to give Mr PB more to do and some character development/having to deal with his [spoiler]relationship patterns, but the whole cheating arc was a bit long by the end.[/spoiler]

I feel very conflicted about Beatrice.

[spoiler]Yes, she 's very much a victim of her upbringing and circumstances, and perpetuating the treatment she suffered (arguably, she didn't know any better). And yes, she becomes a frail woman with dementia by the end. I think BoJack's eulogy episode for her was brilliant (and the ending gag was just perfect and relieved the tension of the episode ). On the one hand she's a tragic figure, but I also really, really struggle to find much sympathy for her (esp. with what she did to Hollyhock) because she didn't seem to try much to change at any point. I do agree, though, that "her" backstory episode, and the dementia one were very powerful.[/spoiler]

One thing I do appreciate about the show is that there's consequences. Many missteps or decision are reflected in the show down the line or referenced. One of the IMHO funniest (and most unexpected) examples was how in Season 5 [spoiler]the Philbert set was a copy of BoJack's house, because the set designer visited Todd's scam "David Boreanaz" house in season 1 and loved it (and of course that set design sets other things in motion).[/spoiler]

[viper37]

I absolutely love how many Hollywood stars are coming out as gamers and nerds. I do wish more women were doing the same. Regardless, it's fun to see.

They don't have the time to play video games while they're binge watching Bridgerton.

[Eddie Teach]

Right, nobody has time to play games and binge watch television.

[celedhring]

Right, nobody has time to play games and binge watch television.

Nobody plays games while watching TV! Nobody! 

[celedhring]

So, I was going to start rewatching Jessica Jones (I love that show) and realized is tagged to be leaving Netflix by February 28th - alongside all the other Marvel-Netflix shows. Are they getting moved to Disney+?

[garbon]

So, I was going to start rewatching Jessica Jones (I love that show) and realized is tagged to be leaving Netflix by February 28th - alongside all the other Marvel-Netflix shows. Are they getting moved to Disney+?

Disney hasn't announced that.

[celedhring]

So, I was going to start rewatching Jessica Jones (I love that show) and realized is tagged to be leaving Netflix by February 28th - alongside all the other Marvel-Netflix shows. Are they getting moved to Disney+?

Disney hasn't announced that.

Well that sucks. Ah well, there's always the high seas.

[Josquius]

Completely failed to notice that.
Never did finish watching the final series of daredevil and punisher. Iron fist killed it.

[celedhring]

Completely failed to notice that.
Never did finish watching the final series of daredevil and punisher. Iron fist killed it.

They were both good. You should watch Daredevil's at least. I loved Punisher too, but it had its faults.