TV/Movies Megathread

[Syt]

The way I see it (at least internationally), the 3 major players are:
- Netflix, who are already established in the market and have started producing series the world over to fill their media archives
- Disney, who have a huge amount of IP and archives (Disney, Marvel, Star Wars, FOX, etc.), plus deep pockets
- Amazon, who have very deep pockets and, like Netflix, have a huge established customer base

[Josquius]

Amazon are an interesting one in how they're throwing money at the problem but failing at bare basic level stuff of having a worthwhile ui. Pakacging in prime video with the free delivery thing is odd too - that's the only reason I have amazon, my mam finds the free delivery useful for work stuff.

Disney.... It still feels very bleh and empty to me. The Disney name for all the good it does with some customer segments holds it back elsewhere.

Google says the first film cost $40 million. 

As somebody that works in this industry, I'm worried that we're entering bubble status.

I can actually believe that. The film itself looked rather low budget but it had a lot of upper B/A listers.

And Hollywood accounting.

[Syt]

I find Prime Video, integrated into the general Amazon website, rather awkward to use, and less user friendly than both Disney and Netflix. I will say I was surprised they had a bunch of old TV shows (A-Team, Miami Vice etc.) available, as well as older movies, which is something the other services generally skimp on, focusing on the last 5-15 years or so.

[celedhring]

The way I see it (at least internationally), the 3 major players are:
- Netflix, who are already established in the market and have started producing series the world over to fill their media archives
- Disney, who have a huge amount of IP and archives (Disney, Marvel, Star Wars, FOX, etc.), plus deep pockets
- Amazon, who have very deep pockets and, like Netflix, have a huge established customer base

My guild met with Disney+ last week and they also have really big plans to produce internationally. Adult stuff.

In the end, TV taste is still very very local. If you want to be as successful as Netflix internationally, you have to produce locally.

[celedhring]

Amazon are an interesting one in how they're throwing money at the problem but failing at bare basic level stuff of having a worthwhile ui. Pakacging in prime video with the free delivery thing is odd too - that's the only reason I have amazon, my mam finds the free delivery useful for work stuff.

Disney.... It still feels very bleh and empty to me. The Disney name for all the good it does with some customer segments holds it back elsewhere.

Google says the first film cost $40 million. 

As somebody that works in this industry, I'm worried that we're entering bubble status.

I can actually believe that. The film itself looked rather low budget but it had a lot of upper B/A listers.

And Hollywood accounting.

No,no. $40 million is about what I'd expect that film to cost, given it's Hollywood. What's ridiculous is then selling the 2 sequels for ten times that amount. 

[Sheilbh]

Amazon are an interesting one in how they're throwing money at the problem but failing at bare basic level stuff of having a worthwhile ui. Pakacging in prime video with the free delivery thing is odd too - that's the only reason I have amazon, my mam finds the free delivery useful for work stuff.

Yes - althought that is also (and increasingly) true of Amazon's main website. It's really not that useable anymore especially with all the sponsored products and their whole algorithms have gone from providing decent recommendations to generic/sponsored recommendations.

Having said that I low-key really like Amazon Prime - I feel like it's either got more money or seen as less of a competitor than Netflix so it does quite well in terms of having content that wasn't produced by themselves in the last 3 years (which seems to be Netflix's approach increasingly). They also appear to have solved the issue - which I assume is a bit like self-publishing - of having an alarming number of David Icke documentaries.

In the UK I think we overlook it - but the iPlayer is outstanding. The BBC's really started working at putting up a lot of their archives (all the 20+ series of Silent Witness ) and because they clearly get the rights (for a while) for a lot of films they broadcast, their film selection is normally surprisingly good and a lot more diverse than Netflix especially which leans modern.

[Syt]

It's rather interesting to see; in Austria (and Germany, I think), there's strict limits on what public broadcasters can put online and for how long, because the commercial stations have put a lot of pressure on the state to limit state broadcaster competition with private stations.

[Josquius]

Amazon are an interesting one in how they're throwing money at the problem but failing at bare basic level stuff of having a worthwhile ui. Pakacging in prime video with the free delivery thing is odd too - that's the only reason I have amazon, my mam finds the free delivery useful for work stuff.

Yes - althought that is also (and increasingly) true of Amazon's main website. It's really not that useable anymore especially with all the sponsored products and their whole algorithms have gone from providing decent recommendations to generic/sponsored recommendations.

Having said that I low-key really like Amazon Prime - I feel like it's either got more money or seen as less of a competitor than Netflix so it does quite well in terms of having content that wasn't produced by themselves in the last 3 years (which seems to be Netflix's approach increasingly). They also appear to have solved the issue - which I assume is a bit like self-publishing - of having an alarming number of David Icke documentaries.

In the UK I think we overlook it - but the iPlayer is outstanding. The BBC's really started working at putting up a lot of their archives (all the 20+ series of Silent Witness ) and because they clearly get the rights (for a while) for a lot of films they broadcast, their film selection is normally surprisingly good and a lot more diverse than Netflix especially which leans modern.

Iplayer seems nice and all but the pricing is borked. What is it now, £160 a year or so?
That's more than the others and for less.

[Josephus]

His character was fine, he was just a parody of the "appears affable and clueless to make people lower their guard" classic whodunit detective.

The film was an enjoyable romp. I just don't know what can you do next. I suppose a "murder while travelling through a luxurious locale" trope.

oh.. oh...they can be on a train, and, like, everyone can be the killer.

[Sheilbh]

Iplayer seems nice and all but the pricing is borked. What is it now, £160 a year or so?
That's more than the others and for less.

What?!

It's free. You have to pay for your TV licence to watch live I think but otherwise it's free.

It's rather interesting to see; in Austria (and Germany, I think), there's strict limits on what public broadcasters can put online and for how long, because the commercial stations have put a lot of pressure on the state to limit state broadcaster competition with private stations.

The big broadcasters in the UK are all pretty good at putting lots of their content up for streaming for free (non-BBC show adverts). So there's iPlayer, ITV Hub and All 4 (which also has an excellent selection of international TV shows that Channel 4 doesn't actually broadcast but is there for ponces like me ).

I think they have now all cooperated with the dreadfully named "BritBox" but I think that's mainly targeting overseas audiences who want lots of British procedurals.

It is really interesting how that's happening now because the UK competition authority actually stopped British broadcasters working to develop a single streaming service in, I think, 2007 on the basis that it would hurt the ability for a new entrant to the market. Now - with Netflix and Amazon and Disney - I think the fear's shifted to British broadcasters struggling to compete.

[Sheilbh]

New series of Inside Number 9

Episode 1 - Wuthering Heist. A mix of Pirandello, commedia dell'arte and heist movies in half an hour

[mongers]

'The Old Guard' moderately well done superpower people from the past living in the present, stars thingy* who did OK.


* Charlie Th*

[Josquius]

Iplayer seems nice and all but the pricing is borked. What is it now, £160 a year or so?
That's more than the others and for less.

What?!

It's free. You have to pay for your TV licence to watch live I think but otherwise it's free.

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The tv license is the cost :p

[Admiral Yi]

low social capital

[Grey Fox]

My GF thinks it's really weird but I really like watching NHK World Japan. Especially when they do weather reports on parts of the world that are not in Asia.