TV/Movies Megathread

[Sheilbh]

We're not talking about meanings changing, we're talking about components of things having the same name as the thing.  The components of a meal aren't called meals, they're called courses.  The components of a regiment aren't called regiments (well, there's another where the British fuck things up), they're called battalions.  So on and so forth.

On a huge tangent, do you know what the word "remove" means in the context of British meals?  In Aubrey/Maturin he talks about a meal made up of several courses *and* several "removes," as if they're separate things.

So I looked this up and I think it's quite interesting.

It's from 18th century and Regency period when rich British people's meals were service a la francaise - which was basically a buffet. You'd have a course but all of the dishes would be brought out at once - like we'd now do in a Chinese restaurant. In the 19th century Britain, and France, moved to service a la russe which is where individual dishes were prepared and served as each course.  This is a diagram of a small set of two courses service a la francaise from an English kitchen:


In the 17th and 18th century the French developed a sort of mid course where you would remove individual dishes from the service and replace them with something new, but these weren't the next course - so in that diagram you'd start with a pottage but then it would be replaced by Westphalian chicken. This was called a releve in French which was translated into a "remove" in English.

Edit: Looking it up this is maybe where entree comes from because the first dish in a course would be the entree, which was then replaced by the releve? And from what I can see Americans in the early 19th century definitely had "removes" but they kept the French name.

On another tangent, drawing on your otherwise useless knowledge of Olde Englishe, why is "pease," as in pease puddinig, spelled the way it is?  You still call the vegetable a pea, right?  And two of them are peas, right?

It's Middle English pease is a mass noun (like bread or butter or cheese) from which we derived the singular pea and plural peas. Pease pudding is really more like lentils - yellow split peas are used for that sort of dish or a London particular. So it's not like having peas, it's more like a dal. Again you can see it in that diagram - green pease is a green split pea pease.

[Admiral Yi]

obrigado

[The Brain]

Why do Russians today bring out all the courses at once? Is it just to mindfuck people?

[garbon]

Just watched the first episode of It's A Sin, which was excellent.

I think Russell T Davies is the best TV writer in the UK - especially on the LGBT dramas he's allowed to do every five years. He also has a special place in the hearts of a lot of gays my age who remember watching Queer as Folk in our bedrooms with the volume at about 5%.

Queer as Folk was on TV 21 years ago and it was a deliberately joyous take on being gay and the gay community. There was no reference of AIDS, barely any homophobia - there were plenty of shows and movies that had, worthily, explored the darker side. Davies wanted to show the fun. But Davies has now done a show in the 80s - he did a great piece in the Guardian about this:
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/jan/03/russell-t-davies-i-looked-away-for-years-finally-i-have-put-aids-at-the-centre-of-a-drama

And as with everything I've ever seen that Davies has written - Queer as Folk, Cucumber, A Very English Scandal, The Second Coming, even Dr Who - it is so good at creating fully-formed human characters in about 5 minutes of screentime. Based on the other shows he's done, because the characters are so real there'll be a lot of humour and fun, which will make the pain all the deeper.

I think I'm better prepared for the tragedy that comes in It's A Sin given the forewarning provided by its setting and its marketing. At this point, I think the only thing I recall about Cucumber is the very sudden tragedy that I was unprepared for.

Also, have decide definitely in the olds category as only character I don't find annoying/enjoy is the timid Welshman, oh and maybe the wizened goth woman who was told she was being very rude mentioning a gay flu.

[Sheilbh]

I think I'm better prepared for the tragedy that comes in It's A Sin given the forewarning provided by its setting and its marketing. At this point, I think the only thing I recall about Cucumber is the very sudden tragedy that I was unprepared for.

Yeah - I think Cucumber's not his best but I still remember that episode and the aftermath. But yeah this show will clearly be upsetting - but I did love the way they turned all the continuity announcements on Channel 4 back to the 80s logo and ads like this:
https://twitter.com/Channel4/status/1352634484269719554?s=20

In terms of moving me to the olds, remembering that Channel 4 logo was a moment

Also, have decide definitely in the olds category as only character I don't find annoying/enjoy is the timid Welshman, oh and maybe the wizened goth woman who was told she was being very rude mentioning a gay flu.

Same - I like Jill too.

[Josquius]

Midnight Sky - crikey this is not a good film. Everything can be expected in advance.
Rigjt from the first 10 minutes it ruins it for itself when it starts talking about a previously unknown moon of jupiter that can support life.... Just..... Wut? You could have at least tried to make it somewhat believable with it being something unknown about Ganymede or to further to Titan or another solar system. But no. An entire perfectly earthlike moon we didn't know anything about.
Space walk with a happy moment? Better believe its going to go wrong after. And clearly the black girl is the red shirt.
Basically The Road in spaaaace. And the Arctic. But wrong.

[The Brain]

Fear dot com. A murderer streams his work on the world wide net, and the police and department of health join forces to catch him. Meh. The movie doesn't try to make much sense. One of those movies where it's always dark, even in normal office environments. The chicks are hot.

[Sheilbh]

Got to episode 3 of It's A Sin and stopping for the night because it's had me in bits

Also - All 4 is maybe low-key the best streaming service in the UK

It may just be my taste (and it's certainly not the quality because that can be problematic) but looking through their box set section and it is insanely good

[Darth Wagtaros]

Re-watched The Karate Kid tonight.  We got into a discussion about old movies being made into television shows.  After deciding that a Karate Kid series was less weird than, say Gremlins, I looked on IMDB and found there is a Gremlins show coming out. 

[jimmy olsen]

Re-watched The Karate Kid tonight.  We got into a discussion about old movies being made into television shows.  After deciding that a Karate Kid series was less weird than, say Gremlins, I looked on IMDB and found there is a Gremlins show coming out.

Have you seen the Cobra Kai series?

[jimmy olsen]

So, Wandavision...I don't have Disney plus, but I hear it's amazing.

Is it as good as they say?

[Eddie Teach]

If you dig classic sitcoms...

I'd definitely watch Mandalorian first.

[garbon]

If you dig classic sitcoms...

That seems like an odd stance.

[Eddie Teach]

It's not funny and it spends way too much time trying to be to take it seriously as a drama.

[garbon]

I don't think it is trying to be all that funny and episode by episode the serious drama side gets more screen time.