TV/Movies Megathread

[viper37]

So what was viper's point again?  That feminism is about displaying female heroes in strapless armor with prominent bare thighs?  The exploitation is the same thing except you can also see a belly button?

For a "wonder", I actually understood his point (I think). 

Which, translated, goes something like this:

The article praising Wonder Woman as a miracle of feminist film-making for its visual appearance is making a distinction that simply does not exist: Wonder Woman looks more or less exactly like other eye-candy female heroines used in other movies, that do not pretend to aspire to feminism (and of which no-one makes the claim that they are specifically feminist heroines). In short, the article is full of wishful thinking on this subject. 
   

Yes.  I don't understand why some particular costumes and poses demonstrate a feministic icon and the other ones are simply exploitation of the female body.  Imho, it's a question of attitude, of damsel in distress scenarios more than a question of costume or a tigh that giggles or not.  That's just being ridiculous.

There are many movies and tv series with strong women, not just physically speaking.

[The Minsky Moment]

Ok that makes more sense.
I agree that the post Carrie Fisher shift to more empowered female leads in action movies is a good thing, and not just for feminist reasons.  The helpless damsel in distress role is just boring.

[Admiral Yi]

Anyone got a clip of the thigh jiggle(c)?  All I can find are still shots.

[Malthus]

Yes.  I don't understand why some particular costumes and poses demonstrate a feministic icon and the other ones are simply exploitation of the female body.  Imho, it's a question of attitude, of damsel in distress scenarios more than a question of costume or a tigh that giggles or not.  That's just being ridiculous.

There are many movies and tv series with strong women, not just physically speaking.

Well, we could have realistic-looking female medieval-style warriors - that is, muscled women with faces looking well-battered in battle, wearing shapeless mail hauberks with coifs and smooth, practical helms. 

Probably a limited market for that, though.

The damsel in distress trope is pretty passé in most instances - even Disney princesses are assertive (and often kick butt) these days.

[The Brain]

Some of my favorite movies are of the damsel in distress type.

[Barrister]

Some of my favorite movies are of the damsel in distress type.

We're not talking about those kinds of movies.

[The Larch]

Yes.  I don't understand why some particular costumes and poses demonstrate a feministic icon and the other ones are simply exploitation of the female body.  Imho, it's a question of attitude, of damsel in distress scenarios more than a question of costume or a tigh that giggles or not.  That's just being ridiculous.

There are many movies and tv series with strong women, not just physically speaking.

Well, we could have realistic-looking female medieval-style warriors - that is, muscled women with faces looking well-battered in battle, wearing shapeless mail hauberks with coifs and smooth, practical helms. 

Probably a limited market for that, though.

You called? 

[Malthus]

Some of my favorite movies are of the damsel in distress type.

We're not talking about those kinds of movies.

Let me guess - not made by Disney. 

[viper37]

Yes.  I don't understand why some particular costumes and poses demonstrate a feministic icon and the other ones are simply exploitation of the female body.  Imho, it's a question of attitude, of damsel in distress scenarios more than a question of costume or a tigh that giggles or not.  That's just being ridiculous.

There are many movies and tv series with strong women, not just physically speaking.

Well, we could have realistic-looking female medieval-style warriors - that is, muscled women with faces looking well-battered in battle, wearing shapeless mail hauberks with coifs and smooth, practical helms. 

Probably a limited market for that, though.

More like a limited talent pool
Most actresses that reach the top echelons are actually quite feminine looking.  Years of genetic breeding by Hollywood studios, most likely

If you want girls looking like Ronda Rousey, girls that would be realistic as female figthers, you'll have to look outside of traditional acting schools, but then you run the risk of having girls who look the part but aren't that skilled in the acting ways.

Kinda like all those 80s male action heroes

The damsel in distress trope is pretty passé in most instances - even Disney princesses are assertive (and often kick butt) these days.

I'm not really into Disney princesses, so I wouldn't know

[viper37]

Some of my favorite movies are of the damsel in distress type.

We're not talking about those kinds of movies.

Let me guess - not made by Disney. 

Modern Disney princess:

[Malthus]

Some of my favorite movies are of the damsel in distress type.

We're not talking about those kinds of movies.

Let me guess - not made by Disney. 

Modern Disney princess:

I thought you said you didn't know about them, because you weren't into Disney princesses. 

[viper37]

Some of my favorite movies are of the damsel in distress type.

We're not talking about those kinds of movies.

Let me guess - not made by Disney. 

Modern Disney princess:

I thought you said you didn't know about them, because you weren't into Disney princesses. 

ok, I know the ones from Marvel and Star Wars branch

[Josephus]

So what was viper's point again?  That feminism is about displaying female heroes in strapless armor with prominent bare thighs?  The exploitation is the same thing except you can also see a belly button?

People see what they want to see.

no. I wanted to see her very naughty bit, didn't see it.

[Ed Anger]

Carrie Fisher had traces of cocaine, heroin, methadone and MDMA in her blood when she died.

Keith Richards would call that "clean".

[CountDeMoney]

Carrie Fisher had traces of cocaine, heroin, methadone and MDMA in her blood when she died.

Good for her.  I hope I'm feeling that good when I check out.