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Started by Eddie Teach, March 06, 2011, 09:29:27 AM

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Threviel

I've been reading up on it. If my sources are to be believed they have all the rights to all of  Tolkiens works and also to the movies. So they can work within the canon set by LoTR. Which would be really good, since the visuals are excellent. They should just use a less puerile director. If they aim on doing it for adults (not the porn parts, the realistic violence parts) like GoT, we might be in for a treat.

How is Amazon's track record? When HBO did GoT they had a lot of high quality series under their belt. Has Amazon done anything in the vein of Rome or GoT or other such "historical" series?

With regards to setting, it could still be second age and the Bight of Mirkwood a mistake. I would think that Akallabeth and the war of the last alliance makes the better basics for a 5 seasons TV show a la GoT than obscure Gondorian wars. The problem with the long third age narrative is that there are hundreds of years between important events, almost no character will be re-usable.

Josephus

Quote from: The Larch on February 21, 2019, 06:05:08 PM
Quote from: HVC on February 21, 2019, 05:03:07 PM
so it got bumped because of boobs?

Which haven't really been that common in the last few seasons, TBH. The sexposition accusation is more apt for the first few seasons (those scenes at Littlefinger's brothel, for instance), but it's been a while since they pulled that.

Yeah, it's no longer the T and A show it once was.  :(
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Tamas

I can really live without gore in a LOTR movie/series.

Threviel

Well, they needn't make it unnecessarily gory like GoT. But LotR as a book was quite violent with lots of horrible stuff happening, I'd just like it to be realistic, not PG-13 or whatever Jacksons LotR was.

Valmy

I don't know. After The Hobbit trilogy I have gone back to my pre-LOTR state of being skeptical somebody can do that world justice. Especially as the best material has already been done.
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Threviel

Silmarillion and the first age is the best material in my mind, but this series won't do that period. But Beren and Luthien, Narn i hin Hurin, Fall of Gondolin, Dagor Bragollach, Finrod finding the first humans... There's just so much good material and you can flesh it out more since there is less written about it.

Savonarola

Fyre: The Greatest Party that Never Happened (2019)

At first the movie starts out like "Jazz on a Summers Day" (1958 Newport Jazz Festival); then problems start to arise and the film starts to resemble "Woodstock" (Woodstock, 1969) and then the audience shows up and the film turns into "Gimme Shelter" (Altmont, 1969) but without the warm camaraderie and rapport between the audience and the Hell's Angels.

;)

To me the film is interesting just explaining the marketing done for the festival.  It was entirely done via twitter, viral videos, through influencers and the like.  I still don't get it, but that might not be a bad thing.

The scene where Andy King (one of the organizers) [spoiler]explains how he was ready to suck dick to get water through Bahamanian customs[/spoiler] is amazing.  I've done some zany things to get goods through customs for the benefit of my corporate masters; but he deserves a medal.

The one thing I don't get is where was Ja Rule in all of this?  He was one of the partners of Fyre and he must know what it takes to put on a music festival; but between the initial viral video and a post-mortem meeting in the end he almost entirely disappears from the narrative.
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Eddie Teach

I wouldn't assume a performer knows anything about how to plan events.
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viper37

Quote from: Threviel on February 22, 2019, 06:56:33 AM
If they aim on doing it for adults (not the porn parts, the realistic violence parts) like GoT, we might be in for a treat.
No elven lesbian babes sex? :(
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KRonn

Starz is cancelling Counterpart, which is a really good show, has excellent ratings even by Rotten Tomatoes which last time I looked was 100% there. The show's studio is now looking for another vendor and I'm hoping it gets picked up. It's a really good show with a unique story line, good actors and writing.

celedhring

Well, that sucks. Haven't been able to watch season 2 yet, but it was comfortably one of my favorite shows from 2018.

Josephus

Quote from: KRonn on February 22, 2019, 10:50:55 AM
Starz is cancelling Counterpart, which is a really good show, has excellent ratings even by Rotten Tomatoes which last time I looked was 100% there. The show's studio is now looking for another vendor and I'm hoping it gets picked up. It's a really good show with a unique story line, good actors and writing.

That sucks. It was quite under rated, but I really enjoyed it.
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fromtia

Have you excellent souls already discussed Wild Wild Country on Netflix? A fascinating documentary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBLS_OM6Puk
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Sophie Scholl

Quote from: Threviel on February 22, 2019, 06:56:33 AM
I've been reading up on it. If my sources are to be believed they have all the rights to all of  Tolkiens works and also to the movies. So they can work within the canon set by LoTR. Which would be really good, since the visuals are excellent. They should just use a less puerile director. If they aim on doing it for adults (not the porn parts, the realistic violence parts) like GoT, we might be in for a treat.

How is Amazon's track record? When HBO did GoT they had a lot of high quality series under their belt. Has Amazon done anything in the vein of Rome or GoT or other such "historical" series?

With regards to setting, it could still be second age and the Bight of Mirkwood a mistake. I would think that Akallabeth and the war of the last alliance makes the better basics for a 5 seasons TV show a la GoT than obscure Gondorian wars. The problem with the long third age narrative is that there are hundreds of years between important events, almost no character will be re-usable.
Amazon has done The Man in the High Castle and a whole bunch of less world building series to my knowledge.  The big issue that arises in utilizing the Last Alliance is that it has already been shown in the beginning of Fellowship.  I doubt they would burn through random pieces of the Silmarillion for a first go.  The story makes more sense if you have more background and not less.  Especially if you consider that the world is very different from that of LotR.  Different map, different participants, different in many ways.  If they go with the Kin-Strife/Gondor Civil War, it is entirely new material to work with that has no movie ties for the most part.  Minas Tirith is still Minas Anor, Osgiliath is the capital, Minas Morgul is still Minas Ithil, the armor and look of the Gondorians and Rohirrim is relatively open, of the casted parts from the movies, only Galadriel and Elrond would be on the scene and potentially remotely involved.
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