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Started by Eddie Teach, March 06, 2011, 09:29:27 AM

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The Larch

Quote from: Threviel on February 21, 2019, 07:42:45 AM
With you there. All six movies dropped in quality successively, the fist one was excellent and then the second and third dropped somewhat, but still good. First Bilbo was again a drop in quality, but still ok, and then there was a sharp drop and the last two were just a retarded crapfest.

Don't know about the Hobbit ones, I went to the cinema for the first and it totally removed any interest I may have had in the other two.

Tamas

Quote from: The Larch on February 21, 2019, 08:31:07 AM
Quote from: Threviel on February 21, 2019, 07:42:45 AM
With you there. All six movies dropped in quality successively, the fist one was excellent and then the second and third dropped somewhat, but still good. First Bilbo was again a drop in quality, but still ok, and then there was a sharp drop and the last two were just a retarded crapfest.

Don't know about the Hobbit ones, I went to the cinema for the first and it totally removed any interest I may have had in the other two.

I really like the LOTR movies. They are not perfect, but they are still great.


The Hobbit movies though are utter crap.

Threviel

It's a long time sine I saw the first one, but I thought the Shire sequences were good, the singing and the visuals and so on. I always thought of Bilbo as a much lighter more childish book, so the childish parts didn't seem so much out of place. But it wasn't excellent in any way, and not nearly as good as RotK, I thought it just ok.

But I might be misremembering something fiercely. Looking back I quite lost interest in the series and only dutifully watched the rest so I might have my rose tinted goggles on.

Tamas

Quote from: Threviel on February 21, 2019, 08:56:47 AM
It's a long time sine I saw the first one, but I thought the Shire sequences were good, the singing and the visuals and so on. I always thought of Bilbo as a much lighter more childish book, so the childish parts didn't seem so much out of place. But it wasn't excellent in any way, and not nearly as good as RotK, I thought it just ok.

But I might be misremembering something fiercely. Looking back I quite lost interest in the series and only dutifully watched the rest so I might have my rose tinted goggles on.

I guess first Hobbit movie was ok. But they really, really wanted to mil the cash cow and extended it to three movies, with shit like an elf-dwarf love affair and shit.

grumbler

Quote from: Tamas on February 21, 2019, 08:35:24 AM
I really like the LOTR movies. They are not perfect, but they are still great.

They could easily have become great if Peter Jackson had just directed them, and let someone else produce.  That way he could create all the Godzilla/horror movie crap, and the editors could leave it on the cutting room floor.

QuoteThe Hobbit movies though are utter crap.

Agreed, though less emphatically about the first of them.  This series was Jackson at his most self-indulgent.
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Threviel

Quote from: Tamas on February 21, 2019, 10:36:19 AM
Quote from: Threviel on February 21, 2019, 08:56:47 AM
It's a long time sine I saw the first one, but I thought the Shire sequences were good, the singing and the visuals and so on. I always thought of Bilbo as a much lighter more childish book, so the childish parts didn't seem so much out of place. But it wasn't excellent in any way, and not nearly as good as RotK, I thought it just ok.

But I might be misremembering something fiercely. Looking back I quite lost interest in the series and only dutifully watched the rest so I might have my rose tinted goggles on.

I guess first Hobbit movie was ok. But they really, really wanted to mil the cash cow and extended it to three movies, with shit like an elf-dwarf love affair and shit.

Yes, the dwarf-elf thing was really bad, but so much else was as horrible so it didn't really stick out. By the time that love triangle happened every shred of quality had puked in disgust. But being somewhat of a Tolkien nerd the big quality drop happened in RotK.

I think they missed a chance with the elves, they could have showed how the Silvans differed from the somber Noldor and Sindar in Rivendell and how they were more faerie-like, like in the book. But of course, that would be a hard sell.

FunkMonk

Peter Jackson is an odd one. He made the execrable Mortal Empires the same year he made They Shall Not Grow Old. :huh:
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Syt

He also made Meet the Feebles, Braindead (aka Dead Alive), and Bad Taste. :D
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FunkMonk

I've seen none of those  :P
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Syt

Meet the Feebles is basically Muppets Show on drugs, Braindead a gore-heavy horror comedy in 1950s New Zealand, and Bat Taste was his first (very amateur) film, produced over 4 years about aliens turning humans to food (it's silly, and stupid, and a bit gross in places, but fun with a couple of beers :D ).
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Syt

#41275
Trailer for Meet the Feebles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FON5KnEKReA

He gained some notoriety with his Braindead movie which we watched on video as teens. From there we looked at Feebles and Bad Taste. When I heard he was doing LotR I had to do a double take. "THAT Peter Jackson? :blink: "
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Savonarola

Quote from: Syt on February 21, 2019, 02:10:28 PM
Trailer for Meet the Feebles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FON5KnEKReA

He gained some notoriety with his Braindead movie which we watched on video as teens. From there we looked at Feebles and Bad Taste. When I heard he was doing LotR I had to do a double take. "THAT Peter Jackson? :blink: "

:lol:

I had the same reaction (though I had only seen "Meet the Feebles.")
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Syt

Braindead was my gateway gore movie. As a kid I was squeamish about that, but after that I started checking out the classics. Though I don't really follow new releases much anymore. I guess the last movie in that vein I watched would have been Martyrs?
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Barrister

Quote from: Savonarola on February 21, 2019, 02:37:30 PM
Quote from: Syt on February 21, 2019, 02:10:28 PM
Trailer for Meet the Feebles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FON5KnEKReA

He gained some notoriety with his Braindead movie which we watched on video as teens. From there we looked at Feebles and Bad Taste. When I heard he was doing LotR I had to do a double take. "THAT Peter Jackson? :blink: "

:lol:

I had the same reaction (though I had only seen "Meet the Feebles.")

I knew Jackson only from The Frighteners, and was similarly puzzled he was doing LOTR.
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Tonitrus

Quote from: Threviel on February 21, 2019, 11:29:13 AM
Quote from: Tamas on February 21, 2019, 10:36:19 AM
Quote from: Threviel on February 21, 2019, 08:56:47 AM
It's a long time sine I saw the first one, but I thought the Shire sequences were good, the singing and the visuals and so on. I always thought of Bilbo as a much lighter more childish book, so the childish parts didn't seem so much out of place. But it wasn't excellent in any way, and not nearly as good as RotK, I thought it just ok.

But I might be misremembering something fiercely. Looking back I quite lost interest in the series and only dutifully watched the rest so I might have my rose tinted goggles on.

I guess first Hobbit movie was ok. But they really, really wanted to mil the cash cow and extended it to three movies, with shit like an elf-dwarf love affair and shit.

Yes, the dwarf-elf thing was really bad, but so much else was as horrible so it didn't really stick out. By the time that love triangle happened every shred of quality had puked in disgust. But being somewhat of a Tolkien nerd the big quality drop happened in RotK.

I think they missed a chance with the elves, they could have showed how the Silvans differed from the somber Noldor and Sindar in Rivendell and how they were more faerie-like, like in the book. But of course, that would be a hard sell.

I'll be curios to see if Bezos improves on it, or makes things worse.