TV/Movies Megathread

[jimmy olsen]

[Ideologue]

Trailer for Space Station 76: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18SJMvNrgDM

I like the retro 70s sci-fi look, but other than that it looks a bit boring.

Shit, man, it sold me.  But Patrick Wilson could sell me anything.

I hadn't even heard of this movie, though.  Thanks.

[Ideologue]

[spoiler]Do we really need spoiler tags on 60 year old movies?[/spoiler]

[spoiler]No, you're the only ones on this forum remotely interested by pre-color&pre-speech cinema  [/spoiler]

Has that ever been in question? Well maybe Sheilbh re: gay marriage.

I dunno.  I think the general idea on Languish is that the progression of history is forever and always good.  E.g., Joan's ruminations on an economy of George Jetsons.

[The Minsky Moment]

By all means, let's go back to the 30s
Fascism, Stalinism, pogroms,  show trials, depression, mass unemployment, lynching's, dust bowls - it's been all downhill since those wonderful days.

[jimmy olsen]

[spoiler]Do we really need spoiler tags on 60 year old movies?[/spoiler]

[spoiler]No, you're the only ones on this forum remotely interested by pre-color&pre-speech cinema  [/spoiler]

Has that ever been in question? Well maybe Sheilbh re: gay marriage.

I dunno.  I think the general idea on Languish is that the progression of history is forever and always good.  E.g., Joan's ruminations on an economy of George Jetsons.

I don't recall this. What was his conclusion?

[Ideologue]

We'll all be okay without recourse to radical redistributionist policies.  He's wrong but I don't feel like arguing with him any more.

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The Doll (1919).  Sav turned me onto this, but it took till I had a bit of familiarity with Lubitsch's sound work to go seeking out a silent foreign comedy from the days when people were still mystified by the whole idea that pictures could move.  But!  It's really funny.  That kid was fucking killing me as the littlest suicidal sexual predator.

B+

[Ideologue]

Oh, and of course I rewatched Safety Last!  Which I have henceforth upgraded to an A.

[celedhring]

Cheesy creature horror has jumped the sharktopus, imho.

Also, why does Roger Corman get to be immortal while Stanley Kubrick died at "just" 70?

[celedhring]

It says so much about the changing values between the 30s and the 50s.  In the 50s you couldn't even show that married couples slept in the same bed.  In the 30s they had rape scenes.

It puts paid the idea that values can't regress, doesn't it?

No. Hollywood, as a new industry, had very little regulation. It didn't have a ratings system for example, and in general there was little control on film's content by outside authorities (the old censorship laws and infrastructures were ill-prepared to deal with it). It was not a good representation of the "official" moral values of the US, it was seen as a hotbed of immorality by many. That's why the Hays Code eventually came into force in the 1930s, and why Hollywood films became tamer from that point onwards. They were brought in line with the "dominant" morality.

[celedhring]

In addition, when talking a content-based nationwide industry, one has to take into account the "lowest common denominator" effect. During the mid-20s the SCOTUS allowed states to set censorship boards for film, which were slowly set up throughout the nation. Now, what happened is that a film could get a pass in New York or LA, but would be censored in, say, Kentucky or Kansas. 1930s Hollywood could hardly make different versions for different states, so ultimately studios ended up making films that could get released throughout the nation, instead on only the most progressive states.

Miscegenation, for instance, was expressly forbidden in the Code because of this.

[Norgy]

Kill me. Now. Seriously.

[Duque de Bragança]

[spoiler]Do we really need spoiler tags on 60 year old movies?[/spoiler]

[spoiler]No, you're the only ones on this forum remotely interested by pre-color&pre-speech cinema  [/spoiler]

[spoiler]Wrong! I am too.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]It's s'agit d'un film de genre parlant, je suis sûr que tu peux y arriver ![/spoiler]



Clouzot had forecasted it. 

[Savonarola]

It says so much about the changing values between the 30s and the 50s.  In the 50s you couldn't even show that married couples slept in the same bed.  In the 30s they had rape scenes.

As I was watching I kept thinking that "Gone with the Wind" had an awful lot of rape and mutilation for a G rated film.

[Ideologue]

It says so much about the changing values between the 30s and the 50s.  In the 50s you couldn't even show that married couples slept in the same bed.  In the 30s they had rape scenes.

As I was watching I kept thinking that "Gone with the Wind" had an awful lot of rape and mutilation for a G rated film.

Ben-Hur has upper thigh massage.

[FunkMonk]

Xena: Warrior Princess is on Netflix