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House Passes Puerto Rican Statehood Plebiscite

Started by jimmy olsen, April 29, 2010, 07:37:22 PM

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It's shame he didn't take up my offer to send him to South Africa.  Of course I would probably get in trouble for abetting terrorism or something.
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I don't agree with this -- the patricians should be allowed to vote as well.
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Barrister

Quote from: Valmy on April 30, 2010, 08:02:31 AM
The territory designation is antiquated and left over from the frontier/colonial days

:ultra:
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Valmy

Quote from: Barrister on April 30, 2010, 09:56:53 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 30, 2010, 08:02:31 AM
The territory designation is antiquated and left over from the frontier/colonial days

:ultra:

Are you saying the Yukon is not a frontier area?
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sbr

Quote from: The Larch on April 30, 2010, 07:07:18 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 30, 2010, 07:01:13 AM
Are the poor parts of Spain near Portugal?

Yup, the poorest parts of Spain, Andalucía and Extremadura, both border Portugal. Galicia and Castilla y León, the other two regions that border Portugal, are not that well off either.

Did Andalucía's CoT stagnate?

Ed Anger

My plan for Puerto Rico would be to convert the population into helots, and cull them every year.

The rest will service us, the equals of the republic.
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Barrister

Quote from: Valmy on April 30, 2010, 10:13:41 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 30, 2010, 09:56:53 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 30, 2010, 08:02:31 AM
The territory designation is antiquated and left over from the frontier/colonial days

:ultra:

Are you saying the Yukon is not a frontier area?

I'm saying that territories are not antiquated or left-overs. 
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Valmy

Quote from: Barrister on April 30, 2010, 11:15:17 AM
I'm saying that territories are not antiquated or left-overs.

I was only talking about the United States Beeb.  The only area we have comparable to your territories is Alaska and it is already a state.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Barrister

Quote from: Valmy on April 30, 2010, 11:39:25 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 30, 2010, 11:15:17 AM
I'm saying that territories are not antiquated or left-overs.

I was only talking about the United States Beeb.  The only area we have comparable to your territories is Alaska and it is already a state.

Don't try and talk me down from my feigned internet rage! :ultra:
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Valmy

Quote from: Barrister on April 30, 2010, 11:40:33 AM
Don't try and talk me down from my feigned internet rage! :ultra:

Sorry :blush:

You know sometimes it is annoying having a serious opinion about something nobody else on the forum takes seriously :P

Heck this issue is so huge Glenn Beck went out of his way to make up a huge conspiracy about it.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Syt

Quote from: Barrister on April 30, 2010, 11:40:33 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 30, 2010, 11:39:25 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 30, 2010, 11:15:17 AM
I'm saying that territories are not antiquated or left-overs.

I was only talking about the United States Beeb.  The only area we have comparable to your territories is Alaska and it is already a state.

Don't try and talk me down from my feigned internet rage! :ultra:

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Josquius

Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 30, 2010, 03:12:17 AM
"more spanish speaking" is written so that it refers to individuals.

You heard wrong, every Puerto Rican born in the states that I know speaks English well enough to function in society.

I hardly see how Puerto Rico's example is going to sway people in other mainland states. There are obvious historical differences and reasons for Spanish to be one of the official languages of Puerto Rico and they're not transferable.
Puerto Ricans aren't the only Spanish speakers. Don't they tend to live in the north east and generally pretty English states?
I was of course speaking of the southern states where they've lots of Spanish speakers of other origins.
The reason it could sway is it would rubbish the argument that having a state speaking a utterly different language would mess with the way the country works. Who gives a crap about the reasons for Puerto Rico being Spanish speaking, that it is is enough.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Tyr on April 30, 2010, 12:54:52 PM
I was of course speaking of the southern states where they've lots of Spanish speakers of other origins.
The reason it could sway is it would rubbish the argument that having a state speaking a utterly different language would mess with the way the country works. Who gives a crap about the reasons for Puerto Rico being Spanish speaking, that it is is enough.
I'm not aware of that particular argument being put worth.

dps

If Puerto Rico ever becomes a state, I think that the result in the long run would be that it eventually becomes a primarily English-speaking area.  Actually, that may happen anyway, but statehood would speed up the process IMO.