House Passes Puerto Rican Statehood Plebiscite

Started by jimmy olsen, April 29, 2010, 07:37:22 PM

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jimmy olsen

I'm surprised at the form the 2nd referendum takes. If I were the Dems I would make it just two options; Independence or Statehood. Statehood would crush Independence in that circumstance and the Dems would get another slate of Democratic (though perhaps culturally conservative) House members.

Although now that I think about it "sovereignty in association with the United States" and "the current commonwealth relationship" is likely to split the anti-statehood vote enough to allow it to win. Though of course, given that last poll I saw Statehood would beat either option in a straight up fight.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1985875,00.html

The poll I mentioned
http://www.prstatehood.com/news/poll_071408.pdf
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(WASHINGTON) — The House has approved legislation that could set in motion changes in Puerto Rico's 112-year relationship with the United States, including a transition to statehood or independence.

The bill gives Puerto Ricans a two-step path to expressing how they envision their political future.

Initially, they would choose between remaining a U.S. territory or taking a different path.

If they decide to change their current status, there would be a second vote with four options: statehood, independence, sovereignty in association with the United States or the current commonwealth relationship.

Puerto Rico has had votes before on its future, but never one authorized by the U.S. Congress.
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Caliga

The options, IMO, should be:

A. Independence
B. Statehood
C. Tainted
D. Absolutely Appalled

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My view

1. Relieving Gringo of the burden of supporting Puerto Rico (Independence)
2. Continue sucking on the Gringo money tit (Statehood)
3. Jaron (No Change)


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Ed Anger

Quote from: Caliga on April 29, 2010, 07:46:04 PM
The options, IMO, should be:

A. Independence
B. Statehood
C. Tainted
D. Absolutely Appalled

:hug:

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Monoriu

What is "sovereignty in association with the US"?

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Monoriu on April 29, 2010, 08:43:02 PM
What is "sovereignty in association with the US"?

Like a halfway measure between the current system and full independence.
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Monoriu

Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 29, 2010, 08:44:51 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on April 29, 2010, 08:43:02 PM
What is "sovereignty in association with the US"?

Like a halfway measure between the current system and full independence.

How exactly does that work in practice?  Like, Hong Kong?   :lol:

alfred russel

I thought the current setup PR gets is the best--no federal income taxes but they get all sorts of subsidies. Become a state and become taxed normally, become independent and lose the subsidies.
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Fate

Puerto Rico should only be allowed to become a state if English is the sole official language of the state.

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jimmy olsen

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lustindarkness

Are the dems so desperate? They are trying to force the issue in hopes they get some more dems in congress/senate, what if they don't?
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