Vatican’s No. 2 Says Celibacy Not ‘Untouchable,’

[garbon]

WTF surely Maryland hookers don't demand that you meet their friends? If so MD = FIAL.

[Razgovory]

I think Seedy would make a good priest.

[CountDeMoney]

Why not.  I do.

Because your condition is not critical. Besides, having recently started an attempt at a sincere relationship, I don't really see what the big deal is. Do it if you want, drop it if you don't.

ZOMG TBR SANKTITTY VIOLATR

[CountDeMoney]

I think Seedy would make a good priest.

I'd make an awesome priest.

[Camerus]

What kind of person would want to live a life of perpetual celibacy?

Why not?  Think of all the bullshit you avoid what with the dinner and a movie nonsense wondering when she's finally going to be ready to put out only to have to leverage whatever possible ass you can score into having to go to arts and crafts shows during the wild card weekend and that's only if you're not trapped in the Friend Zone and that's not the Friend Zone with her but her own friends who silently judge and conspire against you.

Priests just can't sleep in on Sundays, and Mass is over by kickoff anyway.

Fags are right.  Being a cuntslave sucks.

And yet for all that, you still wouldn't want a life of celibacy.   

[Grallon]

Fags are right.  Being a cuntslave sucks.

Took you long enough.  However you're getting old for the endless hot sex that is our prerogative.  On the other hand you're wealthy enough to find a compliant boy toy, one that will welcome the cuffs and anal ramming.

Welcome into the welcoming embrace of our Faith(TM). 




G.

[Martinus]

Celibacy is not "untouchable"

Just like little children!

I wanted to say the same when I saw the thread title!

[Josquius]

In a world of declining religosity having your most religious of people not breed is silly.

[The Minsky Moment]

It would be quite revolutionary

Not at all - for much of Late Antiquity it was quite common for priests to be ordained later in life after they had a family.  The expectation and ideal was that marital relations would cease but that was not always enforced strictly.

[alfred russel]

It would be quite revolutionary

Not at all - for much of Late Antiquity it was quite common for priests to be ordained later in life after they had a family.  The expectation and ideal was that marital relations would cease but that was not always enforced strictly.

It wouldn't be unprecedented, but it would be a tremendous change--if you think of the three vows of celibacy, obediance, and poverty that many priests make--once you remove chastity it becomes hard to make the other two (you can't tell a potential father he needs to stay in poverty, and must follow the directions which may move him to a dangerous place or job). There is also probably something to the idea that the Catholic Church is less open to change than mainstream protestant sects because its clergy is has to make much more extreme lifestyle changes due to celibacy and thus keeps out more secular individuals--ending celibacy could open the floodgates to change.

[derspiess]

I was a celibate teenager as a virgin

[The Minsky Moment]

It wouldn't be unprecedented, but it would be a tremendous change--if you think of the three vows of celibacy, obediance, and poverty that many priests make--once you remove chastity it becomes hard to make the other two (you can't tell a potential father he needs to stay in poverty, and must follow the directions which may move him to a dangerous place or job). There is also probably something to the idea that the Catholic Church is less open to change than mainstream protestant sects because its clergy is has to make much more extreme lifestyle changes due to celibacy and thus keeps out more secular individuals--ending celibacy could open the floodgates to change.

The Church has been around for almost 2000 years; it has had to be open to change and will need to be in the future to survive.

The strict enforcement of celibacy and marriage bans was the product of a particular social environment, not some irrevocable and inevitable dogmatic truth.  In a feudal era where status was inherited, the Church needed to have some mechanism to keep control over its property and to maintain authority over its people.  That era has long past and the Church now faces a radically altered social reality that requires a different approach.

[viper37]

Don't be. Even today there is a non insignificant - and growing - number of married Catholic priests, because the Catholic Church does accept Anglican and Orthodox Greek priests in the 'true faith' ranks with their wives and sons. Also, supposedly some Catholic priests in Eastern Europe did marry during the Cold War; Rome granted them exemptions from celibacy due to the secret or semi-secret nature of their missions.

they accept any married man as priest, they just don't allow priests to marry after they take their vows.

[viper37]

Fags are right.  Being a cuntslave sucks.

Took you long enough.  However you're getting old for the endless hot sex that is our prerogative.  On the other hand you're wealthy enough to find a compliant boy toy, one that will welcome the cuffs and anal ramming.

Welcome into the welcoming embrace of our Faith(TM). 




G.

sounds like you are volunteering for Cdm...

[The Brain]

You can't take away celibacy. Celibacy is what makes Catholic priests special. Well that and organized pedophilia.