Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter

[dps]

Tim Burton hasn't made a good movie!

FYP

Fuck you.  Batman ruled.

Burton wasn't really the guy who made that one.  He got the credit, but it wasn't really his movie.

[grumbler]

Burton wasn't really the guy who made that one.  He got the credit, but it wasn't really his movie.

So his good movies were not "really his" but the bad ones were? 

Edward Scissorhands and Ed Wood were good movies, as was Batman already noted.  Lotsa drek as well, for sure.

[Eddie Teach]

Frankenweenie (2011) (pre-production)
Alice in Wonderland (2010)
... aka "Alice in Wonderland: An IMAX 3D Experience" - USA (IMAX version)
Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street (2007)
... aka "Sweeney Todd" - USA (short title)
Cinema16: American Short Films (2006) (V)
Corpse Bride (2005)
... aka "Tim Burton's Corpse Bride" - Singapore (English title), USA (complete title)
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (2005)
... aka "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory: The IMAX Experience" - USA (IMAX version)
Big Fish (2003)
Planet of the Apes (2001)
The World of Stainboy (2000)
... aka "Stainboy" - USA (alternative title)
Sleepy Hollow (1999)
Mars Attacks! (1996)
Ed Wood (1994)
Batman Returns (1992)
Edward Scissorhands (1990)
Batman (1989)
Beetle Juice (1988)
... aka "Beetlejuice" - USA (alternative spelling), USA (DVD title)
"Faerie Tale Theatre" (1 episode, 1986)
... aka "Shelley Duvall's Faerie Tale Theatre" - USA (alternative title)
    - Aladdin and His Wonderful Lamp (1986) TV episode
"Alfred Hitchcock Presents" (1 episode, 1986)
    - The Jar (1986) TV episode
Pee-wee's Big Adventure (1985)
Frankenweenie (1984)
Vincent (1982)
Luau (1982)
Hansel and Gretel (1982/II) (TV)
Doctor of Doom (1979)
Stalk of the Celery (1979)
... aka "Stalk of the Celery Monster" - USA (alternative title)
The Island of Doctor Agor (1971)

Hmmm, Jaron may be on to something, though I thought Corpse Bride and Big Fish were ok and haven't seen Alice yet.

His first credit appears to be a film made when he was 13. 

[grumbler]

I would consider sci-fi, space opera, cyberpunk, post-apocalyptic, super-hero and high fantasy to be fiction genres spawned out of the 20th century, although I suppose one could group them all under an 'adventure' genre.

Most of those genres can be found in the Odyssey.  In truth, there haven't been any new genres in a few thousand years.

I must have missed the part where Odysseus battled the Cyberspace Klingons.

"It was all written in the Odyssey" is just another way of saying "I don't understand what you guys are talking about but want to sound smart anyway." 

[frunk]

I'd say he's always been spotty, but his good work is still well worth the time. 

Excellent:
Sweeney Todd (mostly riding on Sondheim here)
Big Fish
Ed Wood
Pee Wee's Big Adventure

Good:
Corpse Bride
Batman Returns
Edward Scissorhands
Batman
Beetle Juice

Middling/Uneven:
Alice in Wonderland
Sleepy Hollow

Bad:
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Planet of the Apes
Mars Attacks!

[jimmy olsen]

I don't know about that.  The 20th century was full of new genres.

Depending on what you call a genre, I suppose you are correct.  Let me change that to "decade or so" then. 

I can accept that.

I would consider sci-fi, space opera, cyberpunk, post-apocalyptic, super-hero and high fantasy to be fiction genres spawned out of the 20th century, although I suppose one could group them all under an 'adventure' genre.

Aren't space opera and cyberpunk just sub-genres of sci-fi?

[Viking]

Aren't space opera and cyberpunk just sub-genres of sci-fi?

They are related in the sense that they all use a high tech future as the backdrop and/or as a plot device for their stories.

[The Minsky Moment]

I would consider sci-fi, space opera, cyberpunk, post-apocalyptic, super-hero and high fantasy to be fiction genres spawned out of the 20th century, although I suppose one could group them all under an 'adventure' genre.

Most of those genres can be found in the Odyssey.  In truth, there haven't been any new genres in a few thousand years.

I must have missed the part where Odysseus battled the Cyberspace Klingons.

It translates differently into ancient Greek.  And they used different costume and set designers.

[jimmy olsen]

The Odyssey is best read in the original Klingon.

[The Brain]

The Odyssey is best read in the original Klingon.

[Scipio]

Now I want to see the Odyssey redone as Cyberpunk.

Stately, plump Buck Mulligan came from the stairhead, bearing a bowl of Doritos on which a slender programming manual and a list of passwords lay crossed. A yellow bathrobe, unfasted, was was sustained gently behind him on the stale morning air. He held his hand aloft to the color of a television tuned to a dead channel sky and intoned:

—Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,.

Halted, he peered down the dark winding stairs and called out coarsely:

—Come up, Kinch! Come up, you fearful cyborg!

Better than the original, fortunately.  Although that's not hard.

[jimmy olsen]

The Odyssey is best read in the original Klingon.

You don't like the Odyssey, Scipio? WTF!

[Scipio]

The Odyssey is best read in the original Klingon.

You don't like the Odyssey, Scipio? WTF!

Reading comprehension fail, Timmay.  I don't like Ulysses.

[jimmy olsen]

The Odyssey is best read in the original Klingon.

You don't like the Odyssey, Scipio? WTF!

Reading comprehension fail, Timmay.  I don't like Ulysses.

Ah, well I never read it. No wonder  I couldn't figure out what passage he was referencing.

[Savonarola]

Ah, well I never read it. No wonder  I couldn't figure out what passage he was referencing.

There's also a clever reference to Neuromancer and Lord of the Rings in there.  It's an interextual Geek epic.