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What is "Grey Gardens"?

Started by Martinus, April 11, 2009, 12:09:57 PM

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Martinus

Quote from: Sheilbh on April 11, 2009, 01:43:23 PM
Quote from: The Nickname Who Was Thursday on April 11, 2009, 01:38:42 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 11, 2009, 01:23:12 PM
Oh it's meant to be a great film, though I've never seen it.

Edit:  I don't understand why it's a gay thing though :huh:

"The documentary has been adapted into a full-length musical"
So's the story of Colonel Gadafi and Maggie Thatcher, not to mention Jesus Christ.  Doesn't mean they're of especial interest to queens.
From what I read the documentary is considered the "classic of camp". I was actually hoping you, garbon or Habsburg (i.e. the arthouse fags) here would chime in and provide some insight into it.

Sheilbh

Quote from: Martinus on April 11, 2009, 04:32:56 PM
From what I read the documentary is considered the "classic of camp". I was actually hoping you, garbon or Habsburg (i.e. the arthouse fags) here would chime in and provide some insight into it.
My understanding was that it was a poignant film about the pretensions of old money when the money runs out :mellow:

You should read Susan Sontag's 'Notes On Camp' if you're interested in it, it's very good.

I resent being put in the same bracket as Garbo and Habs <_<  We're all rather different.  Though all enjoyable and essential to the board's ecosystem in our own little ways.
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Grey Gardens is a fantastic documentary, touching and quite funny at the same time.  I don't think it's a film of exclusively gay interest -- it's directed by the Maysles brothers, who also made Salesman (a great documentary about door-to-door Bible salesmen in the late 60s) and other documentaries -- but I do have a few gay (male) friends who went wild for it and even started trying to dress like Little Edie for a short period.   :D

I wouldn't say it's really camp per se, but just that the Beales are such unconventional and theatrical characters.
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garbon

Sorry, but my sister had to explain to me what Gray Gardens was this week whilst I was in New York. I'd never heard of it.

Also, Sheilbh, what are you talking about? I'd certainly think Thatcher and Jesus would be of interest to queens.  My first musical was Joseph and his amazing rainbow coat. :)
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Quote from: Martinus on April 11, 2009, 12:09:57 PM
I heard it mentioned several times lately and it feels like my homo education is lacking for not knowing it.

What is it?

I knew you weren't gay I just knew it.  :p
:p

Martinus

Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on April 11, 2009, 11:01:00 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 11, 2009, 12:09:57 PM
I heard it mentioned several times lately and it feels like my homo education is lacking for not knowing it.

What is it?

I knew you weren't gay I just knew it.  :p
It seems my lack of knowledge of Grey Gardens is on par with Sheilbh's and garbon's. :P

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garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

BuddhaRhubarb

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Quote from: Martinus on April 12, 2009, 03:31:14 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on April 11, 2009, 11:01:00 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 11, 2009, 12:09:57 PM
I heard it mentioned several times lately and it feels like my homo education is lacking for not knowing it.

What is it?

I knew you weren't gay I just knew it.  :p
It seems my lack of knowledge of Grey Gardens is on par with Sheilbh's and garbon's. :P

Well all of you need to step it up then. :p

Actually unless you are a real film buff/scholar likely until a few years ago it's unlikely you would have heard of it. very much a cultish thing until it's recent (a few years ago now) Criterion release, and subsequent art-house runs (only allowed after Jackie O's death.)  and the B-Way show... It now has become a bigger cult thing.

If you like it... check out other Maysles Bros stuff like Salesman or Gimme Shelter. Equally awesome docs.
:p

Neil

Those Feast of Fools forums are really rounding out your education.  I can understand why you don't post there though.
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Martinus

Quote from: Neil on April 12, 2009, 06:52:24 PM
Those Feast of Fools forums are really rounding out your education.  I can understand why you don't post there though.
I post there a lot.  :huh:

katmai

Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on April 12, 2009, 01:01:24 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 12, 2009, 03:31:14 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on April 11, 2009, 11:01:00 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 11, 2009, 12:09:57 PM
I heard it mentioned several times lately and it feels like my homo education is lacking for not knowing it.

What is it?

I knew you weren't gay I just knew it.  :p
It seems my lack of knowledge of Grey Gardens is on par with Sheilbh's and garbon's. :P

Well all of you need to step it up then. :p

Actually unless you are a real film buff/scholar likely until a few years ago it's unlikely you would have heard of it. very much a cultish thing until it's recent (a few years ago now) Criterion release, and subsequent art-house runs (only allowed after Jackie O's death.)  and the B-Way show... It now has become a bigger cult thing.


HBO has made a film with Drew Barrymore and Jessica Lange premiering this month.
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Neil

Quote from: Martinus on April 13, 2009, 04:22:57 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 12, 2009, 06:52:24 PM
Those Feast of Fools forums are really rounding out your education.  I can understand why you don't post there though.
I post there a lot.  :huh:
I'm surprised by that.  I would think that the other gays would mock you pretty ruthlessly, given your provincialism and their own lack of maturity, and you'd be ashamed.

Then again, you're not ashamed about the whole 'lawyer' thing, so I guess I shouldn't be as surprised as I am.
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garbon

Quote from: katmai on April 13, 2009, 04:31:32 AM
HBO has made a film with Drew Barrymore and Jessica Lange premiering this month.

I'd assumed that's why Marty heard a lot about it recently.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Martinus

Quote from: garbon on April 13, 2009, 10:20:19 AM
Quote from: katmai on April 13, 2009, 04:31:32 AM
HBO has made a film with Drew Barrymore and Jessica Lange premiering this month.

I'd assumed that's why Marty heard a lot about it recently.
This is correct.