The Hungarian Election Thread (it's this sunday, folks!)

Started by Tamas, April 08, 2010, 04:42:54 AM

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Razgovory

Quote from: Tamas on April 08, 2010, 11:17:28 AM
Quote from: Alexandru H. on April 08, 2010, 11:07:52 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 08, 2010, 10:09:37 AM
I'd vote for the party that wants to invade Romania. And supports beet subsides.
:lmfao: I'd have a hard time choosing what hungarian town I'd govern after the conquest of Hungary. I'd have to take over that Fidesz database, find Tamas' hometown and fill it with gipsies...  :nelson:

In a Hungary-Romania war you could kiss your Transylvanian hinterland good bye as the hungarians and especially the szekelys would turn into guerrilas. :contract: not to mention the dubious morale of your hungarian conscripts.

During the Cold war Hungary's military was consider the least threatening of all Warsaw Pact nations.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Tamas

Quote from: Razgovory on April 08, 2010, 09:18:21 PM
Quote from: Tamas on April 08, 2010, 11:17:28 AM
Quote from: Alexandru H. on April 08, 2010, 11:07:52 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 08, 2010, 10:09:37 AM
I'd vote for the party that wants to invade Romania. And supports beet subsides.
:lmfao: I'd have a hard time choosing what hungarian town I'd govern after the conquest of Hungary. I'd have to take over that Fidesz database, find Tamas' hometown and fill it with gipsies...  :nelson:

In a Hungary-Romania war you could kiss your Transylvanian hinterland good bye as the hungarians and especially the szekelys would turn into guerrilas. :contract: not to mention the dubious morale of your hungarian conscripts.

During the Cold war Hungary's military was consider the least threatening of all Warsaw Pact nations.

Yes because we weren't that big on fighting for the ruskies, unlike the slavs.

Zanza


Tamas

Quote from: Zanza on April 09, 2010, 12:37:42 AM
No libertarian party for you to vote for?

No :(

I have changed my mind by the way. Due to the rules, the less number of total votes cast accross the board, the better it is for the small parties. And since the smaller parties getting in are the far-left and the far-right, I have decided to cast my vote on MDF. Sure, the one man worth a dime there is Bokros, but he is totally awesome, and the only one keeping the paty alive so his influence should reign over the party's policy.

Martinus

Are there any parties in Hungary that do not sound like a nightmare?

Tamas

Quote from: Martinus on April 09, 2010, 01:36:05 AM
Are there any parties in Hungary that do not sound like a nightmare?

at the moment, no, not really.

Altough I am voting for MDF I am not sure I want them to reach Parlaiment. I think a decisive question of the next 4 years is: will a "neoliberal" party rise out of the ashes?

Altough, here is how I see it: if Fidesz get's 75% majority, they MIGHT reform the country, and the'll MIGHT do it fast enough to see some positive effects before their 4 years run out. In that case, they can win again and keep Jobbik down.

If Fidesz fails or does not even start the reforms, the country will just loiter around knee-deep in shit and people will get disillusioned in Fidesz. And as things stand, they will probably flock to Jobbik.

If Fidesz gets a simple majority, well, I can't see things getting much better then. MSZP and Jobbik will have no reason to support meaningful reforms, because it is much easier to scoop up votes by just opposing anything the government does. Fidesz showed this all too well for them. In which case of course the country will be just loitering around knee-deep in shit despite any efforts from the government. Which will make people disillusioned in Fidesz, and they will probably flock to Jobbik.

Martinus


Alatriste

Quote from: Razgovory on April 08, 2010, 09:18:21 PM
During the Cold war Hungary's military was consider the least threatening of all Warsaw Pact nations.

I thought that dubious distinction belonged to the Czechs...


Tamas

Quote from: Martinus on April 09, 2010, 01:59:06 AM
Neoliberalism. :bleeding:

Well screw you. I meant something different than the classical socio-liberalism of Europe which will NOT change this country. They were on government together with the socialists for 8 years and all they managed was destroy themselves because they failed to be in being different from the socialists in any meaningful way.

And as I said, the only currently non-socialist party right now is MDF, so the last thing we need is yet another iteration of the economic left, pro-gay marriage or not.

I am sick and tired of this leftie lack of cojones. And the "right" is the exact same except for  being able to mask their cowardice and incompetence by xenophobic remarks and parading nationalistic stuff around. The situation was perfect in 1990 to apply a shock therapy since it was a shock economically for most of the population, but the leaders have been stalling issues ever since.

Razgovory

Quote from: Alatriste on April 09, 2010, 02:01:49 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 08, 2010, 09:18:21 PM
During the Cold war Hungary's military was consider the least threatening of all Warsaw Pact nations.

I thought that dubious distinction belonged to the Czechs...

Nah, the Hungarians completely defunded their military and were hopelessly backwards even by Eastern European standards.  The Czechs belonged to the northern part of the non-soviet Warsaw Pact which was considered better.  Romania seemed to be the one that was the most likely not to fight.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Alexandru H.

Quote from: Razgovory on April 09, 2010, 03:59:03 AM
Quote from: Alatriste on April 09, 2010, 02:01:49 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 08, 2010, 09:18:21 PM
During the Cold war Hungary's military was consider the least threatening of all Warsaw Pact nations.

I thought that dubious distinction belonged to the Czechs...

Nah, the Hungarians completely defunded their military and were hopelessly backwards even by Eastern European standards.  The Czechs belonged to the northern part of the non-soviet Warsaw Pact which was considered better.  Romania seemed to be the one that was the most likely not to fight.

Fact is the smallest war would ruin us both... so why do it? Besides, it's better to write songs about each other's faults than actually killing yourself in a stupid conflict...

Ed Anger

Quote from: Alatriste on April 09, 2010, 02:01:49 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 08, 2010, 09:18:21 PM
During the Cold war Hungary's military was consider the least threatening of all Warsaw Pact nations.

I thought that dubious distinction belonged to the Czechs...

Bulgarians.

Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Valmy

Quote from: Tamas on April 08, 2010, 04:42:54 AM
loud refusal of "socialism" while praising state ownership

Hehe sound like politicians alright.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

Quote from: Tamas on April 08, 2010, 11:49:44 PM
Yes because we weren't that big on fighting for the ruskies, unlike the slavs.

I went to a Hungarian history museum when I was in Budapest.

The main message I got was the Hungarians hate Russians...alot...
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."