Confederate history month in Virginia

[citizen k]

Third Servile War (Spartacus' Rebellion) 71 BCE
Bonnie Prince Charlie 1746
John Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry 1859
Easter Rising 1916
Warsaw Uprising  1944
Hungarian Uprising 1956

Nitpick Alert: None of these were any nations' "finest hour."

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[Ed Anger]

The Confederacy's finest hour: April 1865. Jeff Davis runs from Union troops in a dress.

Mew Mew! Squee!

[Viking]

Best response to "Confederate History Month" is for the Union Army to go celebrate it as they did during "The Confederates are history month".

[Neil]

Spellus, stop being a tool.

This.

[jimmy olsen]

I think it was Adams who said something along the lines that the American and Dutch revolutions had so much in common that one served as the summation of another.  Seems fair,  I think it is probably fair to say that the Dutch was the coolest, and the least likely to have succeeded without such brilliance;

Calvinist Pirates, without major support from any of the major powers, take over some cities from the most universally powerful, wealthiest empire since Rome, then proceed to hunt their enemies across the globe, while simultaneously re-inventing the global economic system and warfare in Europe, ultimately resulting in a Golden Age on par with any in Europe.

America was more a bunch of wealthy, brilliant landowners peeved that the British Parliament was making them pay for a war fought for their interests, ultimately won with French support.

Now, the American Civil War was something of a pathetic end-note for these.  There are obvious similarities between the first two, only one side is run by utterly inbred, uneducated, racist, lazy hicks whose sole accomplishment during the entirety of the War was the result of convincing a reluctant non-retard General to fight for their retarded, evil cause. 

Kind of like what Marx said about Napoleon III; the third always turns out to be a farce.

You're retarded.

The Dutch weren't pirates, the British Empire was not yet the most powerful in the world at that time, and the American Civil War was a far more revolutionary conflict than either the Glorious Revolution or the American Revolutionary War.

[grumbler]

Third Servile War (Spartacus' Rebellion) 71 BCE
Bonnie Prince Charlie 1746
John Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry 1859
Easter Rising 1916
Warsaw Uprising  1944
Hungarian Uprising 1956

Nitpick Alert: None of these were any nations' "finest hour."

Hypersensitive Alert 
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[CountDeMoney]

America was more a bunch of wealthy, brilliant landowners peeved that the British Parliament was making them pay for a war fought for their interests, ultimately won with French support.

They weren't that wealthy.

[Faeelin]

The Dutch weren't pirates, the British Empire was not yet the most powerful in the world at that time, and the American Civil War was a far more revolutionary conflict than either the Glorious Revolution or the American Revolutionary War.

The sacred rights of mankind are not to be rummaged for among old parchments or musty records. They are written, as with a sunbeam, in the whole volume of human nature, by the hand of the divinity itself; and can never be erased or obscured by mortal power.

I actually think the American Revolution, and the success at building a democratic republic, were groundbreaking. And I think saying it was all about taxation is a bit odd.

[Queequeg]

 
I was trolling Lettow.

That "Most Powerful Empire" bit was about Spain, not Great Britain.  I somewhat overstated the Dutch case, understated the American and, well, I think I was more or less on the money about the CSA. 

Actual views: I think the Dutch Revolt was in some ways more impressive; they were fighting an Empire in its prime, it was a religious conflict and the Dutch had far more to loose due as the Spanish would have been far different in victory than the Brits. They managed to jump straight from boggy asshole of the Spanish Empire, to brilliant rebels, to Global Empire faster than America did.  I also   That said, the idealogical component of the American Revolution is far more fascinating and, ultimately, fruitful, even if I do love the Dutch Puritan Proto-Liberalism. 

[Razgovory]

During the 80 years war the Dutch gave out medals that said "Better Turkish then Catholic".  It seems they are finally getting their wish.

[Neil]

and, well, I think I was more or less on the money about the CSA. 

That's because you're an ignorant punk.

[citizen k]

Third Servile War (Spartacus' Rebellion) 71 BCE
Bonnie Prince Charlie 1746
John Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry 1859
Easter Rising 1916
Warsaw Uprising  1944
Hungarian Uprising 1956

Nitpick Alert: None of these were any nations' "finest hour."

Hypersensitive Alert 
FYP 

FYP 

Isn't nitpicking a symptom of hypersensitivity?

[Habbaku]

They managed to jump straight from boggy asshole of the Spanish Empire

As retarded as Tim was to think you meant the British rather than the Spanish, this one is bordering on equality with that level of stupidity.  The Spanish and everyone in Europe considered the Dutch regions to be some of the wealthiest and most productive in Europe before the Dutch got their independence--it was one of the primary motivations behind trying to keep it and, later on, during the 30 Years War, trying to get it back.

[Queequeg]

They managed to jump straight from boggy asshole of the Spanish Empire

As retarded as Tim was to think you meant the British rather than the Spanish, this one is bordering on equality with that level of stupidity.  The Spanish and everyone in Europe considered the Dutch regions to be some of the wealthiest and most productive in Europe before the Dutch got their independence--it was one of the primary motivations behind trying to keep it and, later on, during the 30 Years War, trying to get it back.

Key productive areas were in the south, in Flanders.  Before the migration of Protestants north from the areas occupied by the Spanish throughout most of the 80 Year's War , not to mention the effect of the Dutch blockade of the Spanish Netherlands, the North was relatively unimportant economically and culturally. 

[Razgovory]

The Dutch weren't pirates, the British Empire was not yet the most powerful in the world at that time, and the American Civil War was a far more revolutionary conflict than either the Glorious Revolution or the American Revolutionary War.

The sacred rights of mankind are not to be rummaged for among old parchments or musty records. They are written, as with a sunbeam, in the whole volume of human nature, by the hand of the divinity itself; and can never be erased or obscured by mortal power.

I actually think the American Revolution, and the success at building a democratic republic, were groundbreaking. And I think saying it was all about taxation is a bit odd.

The tax thing gets over played.  What really got people pissed was the heavy handed ways in which the British government attempted to restore order in Mass.