Advice to the Democrats, by Bill Maher

[Fate]

He's kept up the whole Marijuana legalization shtick and disdain of religion. What other libertard pet projects did he deal with on Politically Incorrect?

[MadImmortalMan]

Frankly, I don't think the US has a "leftist equivalent of Ann Coulter", at least in absolute terms (i.e. as hateful and evil, but directing his or her attacks against supporters of the Republican party). American politics is too skewed to the right to have a truly evil left (say, the communist equivalent of dominionists, for example).

I guess it's all in your perspective.

[garbon]

Frankly, I don't think the US has a "leftist equivalent of Ann Coulter", at least in absolute terms (i.e. as hateful and evil, but directing his or her attacks against supporters of the Republican party). American politics is too skewed to the right to have a truly evil left (say, the communist equivalent of dominionists, for example).

I guess it's all in your perspective.

And Marti's perspective of America...

[Jaron]

We have our crazy Lefties. Michael Moore and such.

[garbon]

We have our crazy Lefties. Michael Moore and such.

I thought he made honest documentaries.

[Admiral Yi]

As long as we're on Michael Moore and crazy lefties, there's a question I have.  Whenever he was on CNN (which was like once a week) to talk about health care reform, he would always go off about the Democrats disinclination to "fight" for the program.  Kat in the Hatmai's bestest friend Mike Gravel said the exact same thing about pulling out of Iraq during the primaries.  It seems to be a term used fairly regularly by progressives when talking about legislation.

Anyone have any idea what this means exactly?  Seems to me either you have the votes or you don't.

[grumbler]

Does anyone remember the old days when Maher was a basically nonpartisan libertarian?

I think he found the market for that type of entertainment limited, and so adjusted his schtick to stay employed.  That's show biz for ya.

[grumbler]

As long as we're on Michael Moore and crazy lefties, there's a question I have.  Whenever he was on CNN (which was like once a week) to talk about health care reform, he would always go off about the Democrats disinclination to "fight" for the program.  Kat in the Hatmai's bestest friend Mike Gravel said the exact same thing about pulling out of Iraq during the primaries.  It seems to be a term used fairly regularly by progressives when talking about legislation.

Anyone have any idea what this means exactly?  Seems to me either you have the votes or you don't.

I think you can get votes by leaning on Blue Dogs, and the like.  You can threaten primary opposition, or the like.  Plus, use straight intimidation.  LBJ was a master of this process, and he got results even when he didn't start out with the votes.

[DGuller]

As long as we're on Michael Moore and crazy lefties, there's a question I have.  Whenever he was on CNN (which was like once a week) to talk about health care reform, he would always go off about the Democrats disinclination to "fight" for the program.  Kat in the Hatmai's bestest friend Mike Gravel said the exact same thing about pulling out of Iraq during the primaries.  It seems to be a term used fairly regularly by progressives when talking about legislation.

Anyone have any idea what this means exactly?  Seems to me either you have the votes or you don't.

Not for Democrats.  There are a lot of Democrats that are from conservative districts, and thus afraid to get on with the Democratic program.  Getting a vote out of them is not easy, but may be doable with a lot of leaning.

[MadImmortalMan]

It means turning on the political machine of smoke-filled rooms and threats from union bosses, of course. Arm-twisting. Making offers that can't be refused.