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Oexmelin

You know, for someone who whines about ad hom a lot, you sure enjoy insulting others.
Que le grand cric me croque !

Berkut

Quote from: Oexmelin on June 25, 2009, 01:33:07 PM
You know, for someone who whines about ad hom a lot, you sure enjoy insulting others.

This coming from the guy who just called me clueless? What an odd thing to say - where did I insult you again?

And what about those "many" settlers? Are we talking half of them? A million? 45?
"If you think this has a happy ending, then you haven't been paying attention."

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Oexmelin

We are, of course, talking about half a billion interracial marriages for the single month of August 1909.

You know, after your initial post, I wrote one where I started to explain what I meant. But then I thought: why bother ? Is he *really* interested in discussing the topic ? Will it be a fruitful discussion ?

The obvious conclusion to those questions led me to scrap that post and call you on what grounded your reaction to my post.
Que le grand cric me croque !

Berkut

Quote from: Oexmelin on June 25, 2009, 01:41:18 PM
We are, of course, talking about half a billion interracial marriages for the single month of August 1909.



Half a billion in one month? Incredible! 500 million marriages, that would mean what, the entire eligible male population of the the US and Canada got married five or six times to natives in one month? That is impressive!

How many then left their wives for reason of property?

QuoteYou know, after your initial post, I wrote one where I started to explain what I meant. But then I thought: why bother ? Is he *really* interested in discussing the topic ? Will it be a fruitful discussion ?

The obvious conclusion to those questions led me to scrap that post and call you on what grounded your reaction to my post.

Right, and you were bitching about me insulting you. Uh huh.

"Many" indeed.
"If you think this has a happy ending, then you haven't been paying attention."

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fhdz

Quote from: Berkut on June 25, 2009, 01:51:59 PM
Half a billion in one month? Incredible! 500 million marriages, that would mean what, the entire eligible male population of the the US and Canada got married five or six times to natives in one month? That is impressive!

He was being sarcastic, Berk.
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Berkut

Quote from: fahdiz on June 25, 2009, 02:03:05 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 25, 2009, 01:51:59 PM
Half a billion in one month? Incredible! 500 million marriages, that would mean what, the entire eligible male population of the the US and Canada got married five or six times to natives in one month? That is impressive!

He was being sarcastic, Berk.

Really?

He wouldn't do that, I don't think.
"If you think this has a happy ending, then you haven't been paying attention."

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Barrister

Quote from: Berkut on June 25, 2009, 01:11:00 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on June 25, 2009, 01:09:30 PM
As for White Fawn's actions, it is unfortunately pretty much grounded in reality. Many settlers abandonned their Indian wives when matters of property entered the equation.

:lmfao:

I just love sweeping statements like this. I am sure "many" did.

:huh:

"Many" is a pretty vague term, I don't see the objection.  In any event I've heard quite a few stories of fur traders abandoning their "country wives" when it was time to go home.  It seemed to be considered quite routine.
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Berkut

Quote from: Barrister on June 25, 2009, 02:25:48 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 25, 2009, 01:11:00 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on June 25, 2009, 01:09:30 PM
As for White Fawn's actions, it is unfortunately pretty much grounded in reality. Many settlers abandonned their Indian wives when matters of property entered the equation.

:lmfao:

I just love sweeping statements like this. I am sure "many" did.

:huh:

"Many" is a pretty vague term, I don't see the objection.  In any event I've heard quite a few stories of fur traders abandoning their "country wives" when it was time to go home.  It seemed to be considered quite routine.

Of course it is vague, that is the point.

It is like saying that many Canadians are neo-Nazis, or that many Americans are fat. Hence my amusement. Where do you get the objection from?
"If you think this has a happy ending, then you haven't been paying attention."

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Malthus

I'm not seeing the issue, Berk. Such abandonment was certainly much talked about by people writing about (for example) Hudson's Bay Factors.
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

Neil

Quote from: fahdiz on June 25, 2009, 02:03:05 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 25, 2009, 01:51:59 PM
Half a billion in one month? Incredible! 500 million marriages, that would mean what, the entire eligible male population of the the US and Canada got married five or six times to natives in one month? That is impressive!

He was being sarcastic, Berk.
Berkut of course knows that.  He's just being a cunt and asking for hard data concerning a time and place where records weren't really well kept and where a great deal of information is anecdotal.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

The Brain

Berk doesn't ask for data, he's laughing at the word "many". I agree with him, I'm kind of chuckling away myself at that hilarious word.
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Berkut

Quote from: Neil on June 25, 2009, 02:57:56 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on June 25, 2009, 02:03:05 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 25, 2009, 01:51:59 PM
Half a billion in one month? Incredible! 500 million marriages, that would mean what, the entire eligible male population of the the US and Canada got married five or six times to natives in one month? That is impressive!

He was being sarcastic, Berk.
Berkut of course knows that.  He's just being a cunt and asking for hard data concerning a time and place where records weren't really well kept and where a great deal of information is anecdotal.

I wonder how much anecdotal information there is about settlers who didn't leave their wives? Where there "many" of those?
"If you think this has a happy ending, then you haven't been paying attention."

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Neil

Quote from: Berkut on June 25, 2009, 03:06:54 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 25, 2009, 02:57:56 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on June 25, 2009, 02:03:05 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 25, 2009, 01:51:59 PM
Half a billion in one month? Incredible! 500 million marriages, that would mean what, the entire eligible male population of the the US and Canada got married five or six times to natives in one month? That is impressive!

He was being sarcastic, Berk.
Berkut of course knows that.  He's just being a cunt and asking for hard data concerning a time and place where records weren't really well kept and where a great deal of information is anecdotal.

I wonder how much anecdotal information there is about settlers who didn't leave their wives? Where there "many" of those?
I haven't studied the matter.  I'd be surprised if there weren't.

Quit making a fool of yourself.  Trying to be a big dick and push around the poor little French kid is one thing, but you're not mean enough to put a dent in me.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Berkut

Quote from: Neil on June 25, 2009, 03:14:37 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 25, 2009, 03:06:54 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 25, 2009, 02:57:56 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on June 25, 2009, 02:03:05 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 25, 2009, 01:51:59 PM
Half a billion in one month? Incredible! 500 million marriages, that would mean what, the entire eligible male population of the the US and Canada got married five or six times to natives in one month? That is impressive!

He was being sarcastic, Berk.
Berkut of course knows that.  He's just being a cunt and asking for hard data concerning a time and place where records weren't really well kept and where a great deal of information is anecdotal.

I wonder how much anecdotal information there is about settlers who didn't leave their wives? Where there "many" of those?
I haven't studied the matter.  I'd be surprised if there weren't.

Quit making a fool of yourself.  Trying to be a big dick and push around the poor little French kid is one thing, but you're not mean enough to put a dent in me.
I'm not bored enough to bother trying.
"If you think this has a happy ending, then you haven't been paying attention."

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Neil

Quote from: Berkut on June 25, 2009, 05:12:28 PM
I'm not bored enough to bother trying.
You're not bored enough to study the matter, or you're not bored enough to quit making a fool of yourself?
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.