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Started by FunkMonk, March 10, 2009, 08:53:46 PM

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Colonel Caliga is Awesome.

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 24, 2009, 05:53:36 PM
Saw Michael Clayton again.  2 questions for the shysters: do big firms really have fixers?  And what are we supposed to infer from the fact that the character hasn't made partner?

I saw a Jon Voight film called The Fixer. His job was much higher profile, he was the link between the politicians, corporate interests and organized crime.
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Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 24, 2009, 05:53:36 PM
Saw Michael Clayton again.  2 questions for the shysters: do big firms really have fixers?  And what are we supposed to infer from the fact that the character hasn't made partner?

Even small firms can have fixers.  Not every firm needs a fixer, IMHO.  I can think of about a half dozen MS firms that have them that I know of.
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There you go, giving a fuck when it ain't your turn to give a fuck.
-Every cop, The Wire

"It is always good to be known for one's Krapp."
-John Hurt

fhdz

This weekend I saw "The Hangover".  I liked it - it had some very funny moments, and the photo montage at the end was priceless.
and the horse you rode in on

Berkut

I watched Breaker Morant. Pretty decent movie, although the Missus fell asleep about 15 minutes into it.

Of course, I immediately then had to look up the actual story on wiki. Morant sounds like a douche bag in real life, probably got considerably less than he deserved.
"If you think this has a happy ending, then you haven't been paying attention."

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Savonarola

The Devotion of White Fawn (1910)

This is the first film directed by and staring only American Indians.  A settler in the Dakotas is informed that he's inherited a fortune back east.  His Indian wife, White Fawn, believes that he will abandon her if he leaves, so she stabs herself.  The couple's daughter sees her stabbed mother and fingers her dad.  A thrilling chase ensues; unfortunately the camera work in 1910 wasn't all that advanced so much of the chase looks like Indians milling about.  In the end the settler is tied up and about to be executed by his daughter, but in the nick of time Barrister Boy shows up and throws everyone in prison.  I didn't see it coming.

You can watch it here:

http://www.archive.org/details/white_fawn_1910

It's only about 10 minutes long.  It is in the National Film Archives as historically significant film.
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

Oexmelin

Indeed. Lots of people study this film.

As for White Fawn's actions, it is unfortunately pretty much grounded in reality. Many settlers abandonned their Indian wives when matters of property entered the equation.
Que le grand cric me croque !

Berkut

Quote from: Oexmelin on June 25, 2009, 01:09:30 PM
As for White Fawn's actions, it is unfortunately pretty much grounded in reality. Many settlers abandonned their Indian wives when matters of property entered the equation.

:lmfao:

I just love sweeping statements like this. I am sure "many" did.
"If you think this has a happy ending, then you haven't been paying attention."

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DisturbedPervert

Quote from: Oexmelin on June 25, 2009, 01:09:30 PMMany settlers abandonned their Indian wives when matters of property entered the equation.

Custer's Revenge   :menace:

Oexmelin

Quote from: Berkut on June 25, 2009, 01:11:00 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on June 25, 2009, 01:09:30 PM
As for White Fawn's actions, it is unfortunately pretty much grounded in reality. Many settlers abandonned their Indian wives when matters of property entered the equation.

:lmfao:

I just love sweeping statements like this. I am sure "many" did.

And what is your gut feeling grounded in this time ?
Que le grand cric me croque !

Savonarola

Quote from: Oexmelin on June 25, 2009, 01:09:30 PM
Indeed. Lots of people study this film.

As for White Fawn's actions, it is unfortunately pretty much grounded in reality. Many settlers abandonned their Indian wives when matters of property entered the equation.

Didn't know that, thanks.

It's also significant because it's the first Pathe film shot in the United States.  (It was shot in New Jersey, probably within view of Manhattan, as were most Westerns from before the First World War.)
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

Oexmelin

Quote from: Savonarola on June 25, 2009, 01:17:03 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on June 25, 2009, 01:09:30 PM
Indeed. Lots of people study this film.

As for White Fawn's actions, it is unfortunately pretty much grounded in reality. Many settlers abandonned their Indian wives when matters of property entered the equation.

Didn't know that, thanks.

It's also significant because it's the first Pathe film shot in the United States.  (It was shot in New Jersey, probably within view of Manhattan, as were most Westerns from before the First World War.)

If you are interested, I can ask around for references of studies. I have a colleague who used this movie as a source for her dissertation.

Que le grand cric me croque !

Berkut

Quote from: Oexmelin on June 25, 2009, 01:15:54 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 25, 2009, 01:11:00 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on June 25, 2009, 01:09:30 PM
As for White Fawn's actions, it is unfortunately pretty much grounded in reality. Many settlers abandonned their Indian wives when matters of property entered the equation.

:lmfao:

I just love sweeping statements like this. I am sure "many" did.

And what is your gut feeling grounded in this time ?

I have no clue, and I am sure your statement is "correct". In fact, statements of the form Many X did Y, are almost always correct.
"If you think this has a happy ending, then you haven't been paying attention."

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Oexmelin

Then why did you bother with your clueless reponse then ?
Que le grand cric me croque !

Berkut

Quote from: Oexmelin on June 25, 2009, 01:27:34 PM
Then why did you bother with your clueless reponse then ?

because I think you are hilarious and worthy of encouragement.

But you are right, I am clueless, and clearly you ahve expertise on this subject.

So...just how many settlers abandoned their poor Indian wives when matters of property arose?

I so want to be edumicated, just like you!
"If you think this has a happy ending, then you haven't been paying attention."

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