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Started by FunkMonk, March 10, 2009, 08:53:46 PM

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Ed Anger

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2009, 05:25:07 PM
so at least Tarantino's obligatory foot fetish treatment spared us from his usual gratuitous use of Uma Thurman's bony taloned airplane chocks.

:x

I had to turn away from Kill Bill because of Uma's feet.
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Josephus

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2009, 05:25:07 PM
Quote from: Syt on September 09, 2009, 12:12:14 AM
Major downpoint: Diane Krüger whose lines sounded like she read them from a teleprompter at a high school play.

Yeah, but at least she's totally fucking hot as shit, so at least Tarantino's obligatory foot fetish treatment spared us from his usual gratuitous use of Uma Thurman's bony taloned airplane chocks.

Yeah. I thought she was pretty enough to be Syt's newest avatar. :)
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Malthus

One of my favourite ironies from IB is that the Jew Hunter, who is famous for his ability to 'get into the heads' of his victims, essentially falls prey to 'thinking like a German' and assuming the Basterds will obey orders at the end and take him to their leaders unharmed when he "surrenders".  ;)
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

garbon

Quote from: Malthus on September 09, 2009, 06:06:05 PM
One of my favourite ironies from IB is that the Jew Hunter, who is famous for his ability to 'get into the heads' of his victims, essentially falls prey to 'thinking like a German' and assuming the Basterds will obey orders at the end and take him to their leaders unharmed when he "surrenders".  ;)

Yeah, I actually expected them to kill him.
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CountDeMoney

Going to go see Jean-Pierre Melville's Le Doulos next week.  Never seen it before.  Any of you Euro noir gangster fans have any input?

Darth Wagtaros

District 9 was boring. The battle mech at the end was the only part that didn't leave me wish for South Africa to be invaded by Daleks.
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DisturbedPervert

Finished watching Dexter up to the current season.  It was good, but all the internal monologue over his 'code' gets extremely repetitive.

DisturbedPervert

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on September 09, 2009, 09:38:40 PM
District 9 was boring. The battle mech at the end was the only part that didn't leave me wish for South Africa to be invaded by Daleks.

Really?  The battle scene at the end was the part about the movie I liked the least.

Tamas

I dunno... there  has to be a point to the Basterds being the sadistic murderers and the germans taking it with style.

CountDeMoney

Finally decided to bite the bullet and watch Cloverfield.  Thank God for Verizon On Demand...after FFing through the first 20 minutes of useless party chatter, it was still wholly underwhelming.  Blair Witch meets Godzilla meets 9/11.  Meh.

Caught up on about 4 episodes of TiVo'd Barney Miller.  Fucking WGN stopped showing WKRP In Cincinnatti.

jimmy olsen

For the cinemaphiles here.

http://www.slate.com/id/2226970/
QuoteKing of Pain

Masaki Kobayashi's The Human Condition will crush you.
By Grady HendrixPosted Tuesday, Sept. 8, 2009, at 10:04 AM ET

The Human Condition.Like a stinging rebuke to Quentin Tarantino's Inglourious Basterds, this week the Criterion Collection releases a three-disc set of Masaki Kobayashi's 1959 World War II masterpiece, The Human Condition. Deep where Basterds is shallow, expansive where Basterds is puny, and profound where Basterds is glib, Kobayashi's humanist triumph is finally getting the Western exposure it deserves. Previously unavailable in the United States, a restored version was screened last year at New York City's Film Forum and proved to be so popular that it was brought back for a return engagement. Not bad for a movie that is nine-and-a-half hours long (spread over three films) and so monumentally painful to watch that it stands as the Grand Canyon of despair.

Based in part on a six-volume novel by Junpei Gomikawa and, in part, on Kobayashi's own wartime experiences as a pacifist trying to survive in the Japanese army, The Human Condition is as grand in scale and scope as that other anti-war classic, Gone With the Wind. Like the South, Japan lost a war and can't stop talking about it. Every great Japanese director has a movie about the traumas of WWII under his belt, but none is as ambitious as The Human Condition.

The movies focus on Kaji (Japanese icon Tatsuya Nakadai), a self-righteous leftist wanker who becomes, over the course of these three films, one of the most fully realized human beings in cinema, the equivalent of Charles Foster Kane or Michael Corleone. In the first film, No Greater Love, Kaji's unshakeable belief in the equality of men spawns a report on how to implement more equitable management techniques, which, in turn, earns him a promotion in his company and a chance to put his theory into practice at the Loh Hu Liong iron mines in Japanese-occupied Manchuria. Before leaving, he impulsively marries the long-suffering Michiko and they head north, convinced that Kaji's socialist management style will carry the day.

Not so much. The Loh Hu Liong mine is a tangled nest of black marketers, sadistic overseers, baby-faced owners with murder in their hearts, payoffs, kickbacks, and bribes with the workers encouraged to meet overly ambitious quotas by whip-wielding pit bosses. On top of that, Kaji finds himself managing 60 comfort women who are dropped into the barracks every night as sex toys for the brutalized workers. His delicate sensibilities shredded, Kaji reaches the end credits still hanging on to his humanity, despite some pauses for mass executions and rope bondage at the hands of the military police.

The second film, Road to Eternity, sees Kaji demoted from a boss to a cog in the imperial war machine. An essay on military brutality that makes Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket look like a church picnic, this movie blurs into one long, endless barracks brawl, only coming into focus toward the end as Russian forces approach the Japanese lines like grim death. The finale sees Kaji's human decency hauled out, held down, and forcibly sodomized by the horrors of combat. In No Greater Love, Kaji agonized over how to be good. By the end of Road to Eternity, he growls, "I'm a monster, but I'm going to stay alive."

The third film, A Soldier's Prayer, achieves a bleak grandeur, with Kaji trapped behind enemy lines and leading a band of shell-shocked refugees and deserters on an incredible slog through thousands of miles of enemy territory as they try to get back home to Japan. It kicks off in a haunted forest, comes to a head with an orgy from hell, then wraps up in a Soviet POW camp, where leftist ideology meets Soviet communism in a bone-jarring collision. Kaji still dreams of "[a] better world. Where people are treated like human beings," but he doesn't find it in these films.

Most folks, given a choice between watching a grueling nine-hour movie about the Japanese occupation of China and dancing to Yanni will choose Yanni every time. But Kobayashi's epic is not art-house homework. Tense escape sequences rival anything in Hitchcock's early filmography, and a scene of hundreds of half-dead Chinese prisoners attacking a food cart looks like an outtake from Night of the Living Dead. The trilogy is a gothic noir, shot like a survival horror epic. Kobayashi films labor camps, military barracks, iron mines, combat trenches, and POW camps as hellish torture-scapes that stretch to the horizon with no relief in sight.

Tatsuya Nakadai, playing Kaji, literally grows up before our eyes over the film's three-year shoot. Discovered working in a store by Kobayashi, Nakadai would go on to become Akira Kurosawa's leading man of choice after that director fell out with Toshiro Mifune. But even in this, his first starring role, he delivers an indelible performance, one part eye-bulging German expressionism, one part James Dean cool.

But what keeps The Human Condition from becoming a wallow in despair is the rigor and discipline of Kobayashi's filmmaking. The punctuated tracking shots, the way light falls gently across the actors framing them against stormy horizons and endless grass plains, the careful way Kobayashi has, frame by frame, built a nine-hour monument to human endurance—all of this artistry stands as a rebuke to the on-screen degradation. If aliens came to Earth and witnessed these events firsthand, they wouldn't hesitate to destroy the planet, figuring they were doing us a favor. But if they saw The Human Condition, they might pause for a minute, assuming that any species capable of such grim beauty might be worth a second chance.
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Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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CountDeMoney

QuoteLike the South, Japan lost a war and can't stop talking about it.

:lol:

If only we nuked Atlanta.

CountDeMoney

QuoteOn top of that, Kaji finds himself managing 60 comfort women who are dropped into the barracks every night as sex toys for the brutalized workers. His delicate sensibilities shredded, Kaji reaches the end credits still hanging on to his humanity, despite some pauses for mass executions and rope bondage at the hands of the military police.

Hello, nurse! :yeah:

Malthus

Quote from: garbon on September 09, 2009, 06:35:46 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 09, 2009, 06:06:05 PM
One of my favourite ironies from IB is that the Jew Hunter, who is famous for his ability to 'get into the heads' of his victims, essentially falls prey to 'thinking like a German' and assuming the Basterds will obey orders at the end and take him to their leaders unharmed when he "surrenders".  ;)

Yeah, I actually expected them to kill him.

Me too - but the actual swastika-carving did in hindsight have a certain inevitability to it.

Thing is, it seems hard to believe that the Jew Hunter wouldn't have foreseen something like that.
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

Malthus

Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 10, 2009, 05:20:37 AM
For the cinemaphiles here.

http://www.slate.com/id/2226970/
QuoteKing of Pain

Masaki Kobayashi's The Human Condition will crush you.
By Grady HendrixPosted Tuesday, Sept. 8, 2009, at 10:04 AM ET

The Human Condition.Like a stinging rebuke to Quentin Tarantino's Inglourious Basterds,

Heh, the reviewer has completely misunderstood Inglourious Basterds. It wasn't an attempt to seriously depict WW2, it was about movies:lol:

A nine hour bleakly realistic drama about the Japanese experience isn't a "stinging rebuke", it is simply a totally different genre. It's like saying that Schindler's List is a "stinging rebuke" to The Producers;)
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius