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Started by FunkMonk, March 10, 2009, 08:53:46 PM

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Tamas

Inglorious Basterds was great. Clearly Tarantino's best movie, apart from the fact that it won't be quoted as much as Pulp Fiction.

SPOILERS!!!

I think one of the more subtle message of the movie, as BB mentioned, is anti-violence. Which is of course awesome, coming from Tarantino.
Did you notice how, perhaps except only for the opening scene, it is the good guys who engage in and enjoy excess violence? Like that scene on which teenage nazis of the world fap on ever since, the interrogation and killing of the wehrmacht sergeant? Just awesome.

But still, I could only relate to the Basterds' joy at torturing nazis. The final swastika-carving on the jew hunter's forehead. Nice.  :cool:

BuddhaRhubarb

Watched "Obscene" a doc about Barney Rosset and Grove Press. Very interesting story, and guy. There's someone who never took any guff, pretty much did what he wanted, was hoisted by his own hubris, and is annoyed, but has distance on it and understands that his demise (as a publisher) was mostly his own fault.

Lots of interesting very off the cuff interviews with Barney & many notable authors, etc from over the last 50 years.

7.0001 Indecency charges dismissed in verse outta 10
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Barrister

Quote from: Tamas on September 09, 2009, 07:02:17 AM
Inglorious Basterds was great. Clearly Tarantino's best movie, apart from the fact that it won't be quoted as much as Pulp Fiction.

SPOILERS!!!

I think one of the more subtle message of the movie, as BB mentioned, is anti-violence. Which is of course awesome, coming from Tarantino.
Did you notice how, perhaps except only for the opening scene, it is the good guys who engage in and enjoy excess violence? Like that scene on which teenage nazis of the world fap on ever since, the interrogation and killing of the wehrmacht sergeant? Just awesome.

But still, I could only relate to the Basterds' joy at torturing nazis. The final swastika-carving on the jew hunter's forehead. Nice.  :cool:

To be fair, Malthus mentioned it.  But he got me thinking about it.

He might be right.  But I also read an interview of Tarantino where he essentially said "they're freakin' Nazis.  If there's anyone in the world that deserves to be tortured and killed, it's Nazis.".

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Sophie Scholl

Inglourious Basterds made me realize that I've totally lost any interest and my ability to stomach violence.  I realize it was excessive, but it ruined the movie for me I think on some levels.  I've been watching too many silent movies and dramas lately.  :blush:
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Quote from: Cerr on September 05, 2009, 03:36:30 PM

Definitely not too Franco-centric for me. The two films are doing well in Ireland. They're two of the best films that have been in cinemas here in the last few weeks. Were the two films shown together or separately in France?
Mesrine is a very interesting character (with a great mustache  :D). I had never heard of him before the films came out. Is he infamous in France?

Separately and same goes for Germany :)

He is arguably one of the most famous '70s gangsters in France. People still talked of him before these new movies. The execution by the police version even made into songs by the French hard rockband Trust, the ones of Antisocial (covered by Anthrax).

garbon

Quote from: Barrister on September 09, 2009, 12:42:42 PM
But I also read an interview of Tarantino where he essentially said "they're freakin' Nazis.  If there's anyone in the world that deserves to be tortured and killed, it's Nazis.".

That's how felt. I didn't really feel the least tinge of remorse for enjoying the violence. :blush:
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Finally got to interrupt the wife's marathon of horrible movies so I could watch Gran Torino.  Excellent film-- educational, too.  My wife & her sister had never heard of most of the racial epithets used :D
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Quote from: derspiess on September 09, 2009, 03:48:55 PM
Finally got to interrupt the wife's marathon of horrible movies so I could watch Gran Torino.  Excellent film-- educational, too.  My wife & her sister had never heard of most of the racial epithets used :D
Everyone but Eastwood was terrible in it.
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Quote from: Barrister on September 09, 2009, 12:42:42 PMBut I also read an interview of Tarantino where he essentially said "they're freakin' Nazis.  If there's anyone in the world that deserves to be tortured and killed, it's Nazis."

Yeah, pretty much my read on it.  Quentin likes to hide homages to old cinema faves in his flicks, not sweeping metaphors.

Razgovory

Quote from: Judas Iscariot on September 09, 2009, 02:36:30 PM
Inglourious Basterds made me realize that I've totally lost any interest and my ability to stomach violence.  I realize it was excessive, but it ruined the movie for me I think on some levels.  I've been watching too many silent movies and dramas lately.  :blush:

I was the same way when I watched Kill Bill.
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Malthus

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2009, 05:08:31 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 09, 2009, 12:42:42 PMBut I also read an interview of Tarantino where he essentially said "they're freakin' Nazis.  If there's anyone in the world that deserves to be tortured and killed, it's Nazis."

Yeah, pretty much my read on it.  Quentin likes to hide homages to old cinema faves in his flicks, not sweeping metaphors.

Sometimes a big honking baseball bat to the nazi skull is just a big honking baseball bat to the nazi skull.  ;)
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Malthus

Quote from: Razgovory on September 09, 2009, 05:13:05 PM
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on September 09, 2009, 02:36:30 PM
Inglourious Basterds made me realize that I've totally lost any interest and my ability to stomach violence.  I realize it was excessive, but it ruined the movie for me I think on some levels.  I've been watching too many silent movies and dramas lately.  :blush:

I was the same way when I watched Kill Bill.

I found them quite, quite different in their treatment of violence. Kill Bill was more of a cartoon, and Inglorious Basterds didn't have nearly the body count I was expecting - though the scalpings, baseball bats, swastika carvings were pretty intense.
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Malthus on September 09, 2009, 05:13:50 PM
Sometimes a big honking baseball bat to the nazi skull is just a big honking baseball bat to the nazi skull.  ;)

Oh, fuck yeah.

Frankly, watching Donny beat Nazis to death is the closest we ever get to going to the movies.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Syt on September 09, 2009, 12:12:14 AM
Major downpoint: Diane Krüger whose lines sounded like she read them from a teleprompter at a high school play.

Yeah, but at least she's totally fucking hot as shit, so at least Tarantino's obligatory foot fetish treatment spared us from his usual gratuitous use of Uma Thurman's bony taloned airplane chocks.